Kindness

[Santiago Ram]

What is your opinion on the following insight:

God, whenever I become angry, allow me to be Kind. And whenever I get angrier, allow me to be Kinder. Because my sobriety. My rehabilitation. And my inner Peace depends on this. So be it.

[Santiago Ram]

I do work with addicts, like myself, btw. And I want this to be accurate.

Edited February 24 by Santiago Ram

[Leo Gura]

How about whenever you are angry you allow yourself to be angry?

Trying to be something you're not is inherently unpeaceful.

Edited February 24 by Leo Gura

[Aaron p]

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[Aaron p]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

How about whenever you are angry you allow yourself to be angry?

Trying to be something you're not is inherently unpeaceful.

This is good, I've had many years of figuring out of anger in myself... This seems to be the only way. Trying to get rid of it does little to nothing. It just comes anyway 

[Leo Gura]

Just observe your emotions without trying to change them.

If you really want to practice changing then, use Sedona Method.

Edited February 24 by Leo Gura

[Santiago Ram]

@Aaron p @Leo Gura A drug rehab center in Mexico can be a place with A LOT of anger. Ive seen two commit suicide because of this, many relapse and many simply go crazy.

I've observed my anger and I can see it come and go. But working with other addicts can be very challenging.

One day a 50 year old woman asked: Why, after working with dolphins, art, group therapy, psychiatrists, many clinics, why has nothing improved?

Because of RESENTMENT, I yelled and her eyes opened a bit, the owner of the clinic noticed this.

So, I think there is something profound about Hate, Resentment and, Anger that creates a Duality between Self and Other and that somehow must be resolved. When I saw the Kingdom, I found a word - Conflict, which I have not yet resolved. What is Conflict?

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Just observe your emotions without trying to change them.

If you really want to practice changing then, use Sedona Method.

I will research and practice Sedona Method, thank you  

[Leo Gura]

@Santiago Ram Hurt.

If you got anger that won't go away, it's because you've been hurt. Look past the anger to unearth and confront the hurt. The anger is just a side-effect of the hurt.

Edited February 24 by Leo Gura

[shree]

2 hours ago, Santiago Ram said:

What is your opinion on the following insight:

God, whenever I become angry, allow me to be Kind. And whenever I get angrier, allow me to be Kinder. Because my sobriety. My rehabilitation. And my inner Peace depends on this. So be it

Sounds like typical Christian rehab law. Suppress and repress instead of express on a healthy way.

 

2 hours ago, Santiago Ram said:

A drug rehab center in Mexico can be a place with A LOT of anger. Ive seen two commit suicide because of this, many relapse and many simply go crazy.

Did they commit suicide and went crazy because they expressed their anger in destructive ways, or because they suppressed it until it became unbearable?

Edited February 24 by shree

[Leo Gura]

And you can then apply Sedona Method on the hurt to release it.

[gettoefl]

11 hours ago, Santiago Ram said:

What is your opinion on the following insight:

God, whenever I become angry, allow me to be Kind. And whenever I get angrier, allow me to be Kinder. Because my sobriety. My rehabilitation. And my inner Peace depends on this. So be it.

God. Whenever I am angry, allow me to see I am damaged and broken by reacting thus. I am attempting to judge wrongness outside of myself. The wrongness is how I am reacting to the situation. Give me the power to let go such judgements. Everyone is doing what they can and what they must. I need to work on me; I don't need to fix or interfere with others. I simply need to heal me; that's my only task here. Then good things can arise since Your voice will then be heard from within and from without. Let me see that actions are not important and not my business, only my thoughts towards this world are.

Amen.

[shree]

1 hour ago, gettoefl said:

God. Whenever I am angry, allow me to see I am damaged and broken by reacting thus. I am attempting to judge wrongness outside of myself. The wrongness is how I am reacting to the situation. Give me the power to let go such judgements. Everyone is doing what they can and what they must. I need to work on me; I don't need to fix or interfere with others. I simply need to heal me; that's my only task here. Then good things can arise since Your voice will then be heard from within and from without. Let me see that actions are not important and not my business, only my thoughts towards this world are.

Amen.

Reminds me on upbringing I got from my deep stage blue Christian mom. It was highly destructive.

Subconscious message under this is: You are worthless peace of shit as well as your whole life. Let everyone piss and shit on you. God sees everything and will reward you in afterlife.

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Rage can be problematic and it's exactly what arises by suppressing anger.

 

Anger is God given.

[Santiago Ram]

@shree

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Rage can be problematic and it's exactly what arises by suppressing anger.

 

Anger is God given.

Yup

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Subconscious message under this is: You are worthless peace of shit as well as your whole life. Let everyone piss and shit on you. God sees everything and will reward you in afterlife.

I think I need to work on that as I am somewhat meek. But that is a very wrong interpretation. God rewards you now (you are God), Heaven and Hell are just metaphors.

@shree Many are fundamentalists and can be very damaging, but there can also be Stage Turquoise Christianity

Edited February 24 by Santiago Ram

[Santiago Ram]

@Leo Gura Thank you  

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, shree said:

Reminds me on upbringing I got from my deep stage blue Christian mom. It was highly destructive.

Subconscious message under this is: You are worthless peace of shit as well as your whole life. Let everyone piss and shit on you. God sees everything and will reward you in afterlife.

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Rage can be problematic and it's exactly what arises by suppressing anger.

 

Anger is God given.

Anger is me getting more deeply stuck in this illusion and wanting to change it into a different illusion.

My mission here is to leave the illusion and return to the truth.

The truth means seeing each person as the perfect, innocent, divine creation they truly are and not the sinning body mind they are not.

[shree]

12 hours ago, Santiago Ram said:

@shree

 

@shree but there can also be Stage Turquoise Christianinity

Probably every religion contains some fragments of truth, including Christianity, and therefore has the potential to reach Stage Turquoise.

The real question is: what remains of that religion once it reaches that stage?

But that's off-topic. If it works for you, then great!

[Santiago Ram]

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“This is how I want you to conduct yourself in these matters. If you enter your place of worship and, about to make an offering, you suddenly remember a grudge a friend has against you, abandon your offering, leave immediately, go to this friend and make things right. Then and only then, come back and work things out with God." [Matthew 5:23-24]

I think Kindness is one of the fundamentals to living The Good Life. But what is Kindness? What is Service?

I think it is understanding and attending the Anger that the Other has against you and solving it, as illustrated by the above verse from The Sermon of The Mount. you suddenly remember a grudge a friend has against you

"CLEAN THE FLOOR, you made an awful mess." Yes Ma'am.

"Do 100 Push Ups NOW" Okay, Godfather.

"Do the laundry CORRECTLY" Yes. "Do it again, YOU MESSED UP". Okay. "AGAIN!" Okay.

I think it is not about solving my own anger, but other people's. I think that is the essence of service and abnegation and a route to enlightenment.

After doing that, others will smile and you will sow Peace. In a clinic where people have commited suicide, this attitude can save their lives, and your own. I think this is part of Christ's message.

[Santiago Ram]

"You are going to tolerate the newcomers LOUD volume at night and you WILL NOT COMPLAIN. Okay?" Yes sir.

"You are going to take care of the alcoholic newcomer for the next three nights, if you don't sleep, suck it up, their lives are at stake" Okay, Godfather.

"You will not eat salt."I will not eat salt.

"Stay in the Temazcal (prehispanic hot sauna) NO MATTER HOW HOT it gets, you cannot leave until the ceremony is over." Understood.

"You are anxious AGAIN *Slap*" But. "SHUT UP *Slap thrice*" Okay." "You will NOT CRY OUT LOUD in front of everyone again, OKAY?"  Yes.

HOWEVER. When the Truth is at stake, do not be meek.

"I suddenly became crazy and believed in Christ? Isn't that silly. I come here to indoctrinate everyone with fear about Hell, etc. (Godfather, or Sponsor in the US, was talking about me in first person, a common tactic in AA)" I am resented since childhood, but when Christ taught Forgiveness he was talking about Peace. And Peace is not a Place in the Afterlife, it is this Moment, an Instant, an attribute of God itself.

"You will not have the Bible" Godfather, what happens when THE WILL OF GOD contradicts the WILL OF MAN?

When Truth is at stake, defend Truth, don't be Kind.

But when Kindness is Truth, be Kind. Respond to other's Anger by complying.

Edited February 25 by Santiago Ram

[Santiago Ram]

I think this is more accurate:
 

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God, whenever I encounter the anger of others, allow me to respond with reconciliation rather than defensive hostility, because my Sobriety, my Rehabilitation and my inner Peace depend on this. So be it.

 

Edited February 26 by Santiago Ram

[Aaron p]

You could try a slightly harder hitting spiritual one if it resonates:

 

"Elohim, I am filled with the power and presence of your holy spirit. I am strengthened by your limitless grace to accomplish everything. I partake in the divine presence and am liberated from all evil forever. Remind me of our immortal friendship often. I love you."