They are giving Luigi the death penalty

[integral]

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The guy who killed the CEO of the healthcare company.

They wanna give him the death penalty when they don’t even give that to school shooters.

Who exactly wants to give him the death penalty?

So they’re trying to explain to us that the legal system has been purchased and they’re using that leverage to create fear so no one kills rich people.

Threatening the death penalty is such a stereotypical cliché rich men fear tactic.

It’s egregious how they don’t try to hide their power over everything.

The only people who want the death penalty are scared little rich men.

Who is “they” that are calling for the death penalty?

The rest of the population want him free so we can go around killing the rest of the leeches on society.

Edited Sunday at 04:21 AM by integral

[puporing]

There's "laws on paper" and then there's "what justice means". 

Laws on paper may or may not be just. People (in law enforcement) can also not be following the law as it was intended.

Justice is a broader concept that requires a lot of consciousness to understand, and may even go "against" written laws. But our judges and the system is not that conscious yet.

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But yeah to your point this case in particular would be symptomatic of a similar problem where "white collar crimes" are not penalized that much compared to other crimes, and as well the unevenness of application of what is supposed to be "equal laws". Such as that CEOs and politicians are generally more above the law than others.

Edited Sunday at 04:37 AM by puporing

[aurum]

I don't know about the death penalty, but he definitely needs a strong sentencing.

People have lost their mind justifying Luigi's behavior. Total toxic populism, pitchfork-wielding mob mentality.

[Breathe]

22 minutes ago, aurum said:

People have lost their mind justifying Luigi's behavior

I don't think they've lost their minds. People are just fucking over it. You can only exploit people for so long before they rise up and express outrage.

I'm not saying it's a great strategy but what else would you expect from people who have suffered immensely or have lost loved ones to greed and neglect?

[PurpleTree]

Death penalty should be abolished anyway. It’s backwards.

The US is like the only western country that still does it. 

[Elliott]

13 minutes ago, Breathe said:

 

I'm not saying it's a great strategy but what else would you expect from people who have suffered immensely or have lost loved ones to greed and neglect?

I would expect that they just go out and get non-profit health insurance, people have complained about insurance companies for a long time. If people don't care to be responsible with such a serious purchase(or job choice(you're taking a job with effectively no health insurance if they have bad insurance)) why should they be allowed to resort to murder when it doesn't work out well for them?

How does everyone overnight know some insurance companies are terrible, yet no one had been maneuvering from beneath said companies prior to the murder? Why wasn't there protests and boycotts.

Edited Sunday at 02:31 PM by Elliott

[PurpleTree]

[Breathe]

@Elliott Until we root out corruption in the government and replace it with a system for the people I won't be mad at the occasional pitch fork uprising. Not an effective long term solution but it's one way to raise awareness.

[Ishanga]

For certain crimes yes death penalty is needed imo... Its not just a deterrent, because the ppl that do crazy don't react to deterrents, but we don't need them within a society..Killing innocents, yes this ceo was an innocent, he maybe or maybe not did some bad things, made choices that hurt others, but that is due to a corrupt system, he's just playing the system, the individuals that are rich or powerful are just doing more survival and making decisions, if it hurts You or Your jealous then get rich or powerful and then its done, don't complain against them.. for sure they will want to secure their positions in the world, just as You would do in their shoes and are doing when not rich or powerful, you want to secure Your position as well, so its the same game being played on both sides..

Nothing will change unless we change the systems so the masses benefit, until that happens we have to play the game as Consciously as we can, which means its not all about just Me, we need to bring or help as many as we can along the way!

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, Breathe said:

@Elliott Until we root out corruption in the government and replace it with a system for the people I won't be mad at the occasional pitch fork uprising. Not an effective long term solution but it's one way to raise awareness.

We have non profit insurance companies you can choose instead, you can just quit supporting bad companies with your wallet or job instead of waiting for magical politics.

Edited Sunday at 04:24 PM by Elliott

[aurum]

1 hour ago, Breathe said:

I don't think they've lost their minds. People are just fucking over it. You can only exploit people for so long before they rise up and express outrage.

I'm not saying it's a great strategy but what else would you expect from people who have suffered immensely or have lost loved ones to greed and neglect?

1) If people are so over it, then why did the majority vote for Republicans who would love nothing more than to privatize all healthcare?

2) You can have rage at the healthcare system without making Luigi into some kind of hero

Expected behavior or not, it’s still toxic. Shooting CEOs is not a solution. But people just want to see blood.

[Elliott]

People have lost their minds, by supporting Luigi you KNOW you are encouraging other young people to ruin their lives. 

[The Crocodile]

The jury has the power to let him walk free. If they feel like it they could just set him free.

 

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

We have non profit insurance companies, already, you can just quit supporting bad companies with your wallet or job instead of waiting for magical politics.

By magical politics you just mean "Europe"

If certain people deserve to die then the CEO certainly did, along with trump and many, many other people. So if you justify the death penalty then you're opening up a really big list of people. Luigi being sentenced to death is incoherent.

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

By magical politics you just mean "Europe"

If certain people deserve to die then the CEO certainly did, along with trump and many, many other people. So if you justify the death penalty then you're opening up a really big list of people. Luigi being sentenced to death is incoherent.

I mean why are you screaming at the government while you refuse to take available action yourself that would completely remedy the situation.

That's like continuing to leave your keys in your unlocked car in front of your house and then complaining to the mayor about auto theft.

[The Crocodile]

14 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I mean why are you screaming at the government while you refuse to take available action yourself that would completely remedy the situation.

No, I think you have literally no idea what you're talking about.

Like everything you say.

Not everybody in the US can get non-profit insurance.

And non-profit insurance is still basically for-profit, like it's just an inaccurate designation, people are still making money.

[Elliott]

25 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

No, I think you have literally no idea what you're talking about.

Like everything you say.

Not everybody in the US can get non-profit insurance.

And non-profit insurance is still basically for-profit, like it's just an inaccurate designation, people are still making money.

Not everyone, but a vast amount of people, and most people continue buying united health type insurance.

No, they're literally not for profit and member owned companies.

 

 

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Edited Sunday at 05:19 PM by Elliott

[Schizophonia]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Death penalty should be abolished anyway. It’s backwards.

The US is like the only western country that still does it. 

Certainly not; The death penalty makes perfect sense.
Because a person is similar to a homo sapiens then he has a right to life even if he is crazy and useless ?
Where does this right to life come from; It's just stupid and useless idealism.

Edited Sunday at 05:09 PM by Schizophonia

[PurpleTree]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

Certainly not; The death penalty makes perfect sense.
Because a person is similar to a homo sapiens then he has a right to life even if he is crazy and useless ?
Where does this right to life come from; It's just stupid and useless idealism.

Then go live in a country with death penalty maybe? 

[MarkKol]

As much as I would like some of these people dead and gone, you absolutely can't do that. That murder was a net negative even though the guy might've fully deserved it

48 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

The jury has the power to let him walk free. If they feel like it they could just set him free.

He killed somebody, they can't let him free under any circumstances, otherwise, our justice system is an incompetent mess.