What "I am God" implies

[Davino]

17 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

But is it? You experience your self as being a certain way right now, and as a rather solid reality -- the center of it all.

It's more wavy, I can see the walls and objects around me breathing but surely I'm still localized in the centre of my brain and parts of my body, which are solidities that don't allow non-localized spatious consciousness to be locked in.

17 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

I suspect that assertions of that kind come from an “intellectual” stance. We likely don’t yet truly apprehend what infinity is, except as a fuzzy notion.

In my case they come from a Consciousness stance. I wasn't vague, I am very clear: this moment is Infinity happening. It can become more Infinity surely but it is a permutation in Infinity and whole in itself.

17 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

One could say an apple is infinity, and that you are God, but when the apple gets peeled, you likely don’t see it as if it were you or yours.

Sometimes when I touch the corner of my table it feels like scratching my pinky toe.

17 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

It turns out that an absolute can’t be thought, so that’s another thing to consider. How come? You can’t think the nature of anything because thought is late to the party, so to speak, even though it may have been invited (it is a form of the absolute).

We use the vehicle of thought as far as it can go, its limitations don't imply its premature discard.

Surely Consciousness is the One size fits all vehicle.

[UnbornTao]

@Nilsi Yes, and there's also the tendency you may be alluding to -- mistaking fluency in "spiritual" language with having had insight for yourself. The latter is not so easily come by. 

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, Hyperion said:

Is that absolutely true?

At the time it was, now it's just an absolutely true concept.

[Hojo]

 

18 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

I am god sounds a bit narcissistic egoic imo.

Thats cause you dont know God. Saying I am God is akin to saying I am nothing. Anti ego. Your mind thinks that it somehow means the person is trying to exert power over you based on projection.

Edited 5 hours ago by Hojo

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

 

Thats cause you dont know God. Saying I am God is akin to saying I am nothing. Anti ego. Your mind thinks that it somehow means the person is trying to exert power over you based on projection.

No, first there should be NO statement that "I" am God, just BE in the world and ppl will make up their minds about what You are, You will already know what You are, so there is no decision being made..  As soon as there is a statement or saying then there is EGO, which is not It or what is implied by Being Godliness or Divinity...

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[Hojo]

@Ishanga Why are you so scared of ego. The statement is just saying I am, God is nothing. 'I' is taken from God and means God.

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[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Ishanga Why are you so scared of ego. The statement is just saying I am, God is nothing.

Why would You say I am scared of it, I just spelled the world and used it in what I was saying? Ego generally speaking is dis empowering, due to false self and identity with it, since the majority of ppl are unconscious in nature.. so getting more involved with ego for most is not good...hence for most stating "I am God" is no good...

As well Shiva/Brahman/Absolute is not "Nothing", its all Potential, all Possibility, that is something...

Edited 4 hours ago by Ishanga

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Hojo said:

 

Thats cause you dont know God. Saying I am God is akin to saying I am nothing. Anti ego. Your mind thinks that it somehow means the person is trying to exert power over you based on projection.

You don't know God either because there is no God to know. Knowing is separation and, call it God or whatever, is everything and isn't separate from anything. It is everything. 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia How are you talking to me? Deception is separation. You know you trick yourself into forgetting.

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[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia How are you talking to me? Deception is separation.

?? Not sure what you're saying.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia Are you saying there is a grandiose thing,that contains and has the qualities of everything (including your body), making a statement from that body inside that thing saying you cant know it to be real? This is your chance to know God as a human inside of God.

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[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

Thats cause you dont know God.

How do you know that?

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

 

Saying I am God is akin to saying I am nothing.

Then why not just say "I am nothing"? Ever heard of spiritual ego?

[Hojo]

@PurpleTree There is no ego in the statement, you are putting ego into it. You can say I am nothing and its the exact same the person chooses whatever word they want. Why are you getting offended by the word God, when the words are the same? Could it be spiritual ego defending itself? I would love a world where everyone just said Hello I am God.

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@PurpleTree There is no ego in the statement, you are putting ego into it. You can say I am nothing and its the exact same the person chooses whatever word they want. Why are you getting offended by the word God, when the words are the same? Could it be spiritual ego defending itself?

Sure it could be. I don’t get offended by the word god but i do think it’s silly. The word imo has too much baggage and ideas attached to it and if everything is "one" then why should it be called god. Why does it even need a name at all?

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

How do you know that?

Then why not just say "I am nothing"? Ever heard of spiritual ego?

This is a good point..

Ppl in the Spiritual community especially around here only Use the word "God" because it brings about a higher sense of Ego, it makes them feel more Grand, which basically means "I am above You and all others".. God is just a concept, you learned it along the way in life, and no matter how You individually define it, overall generally it means domain Over Others, all knowing, all powerful and such themes, so its clearly Egoic boarding on Narcissistic..

If God means nothing then say I am nothing, but they won't because that means nothing and makes them feel less than.. its so simple! 

[Hojo]

@PurpleTree I agree it also can be used dangerously but when thinking of God and announcing and identifying with God can be very valuable. To stop yourself from contemplating and announcing it based on fear of yourself is not good either. Thinking about being God and what its like to be nothing can bring beautiful moments in life. Saying God to me is saying I am my experience.

This is what I see, I see someone announce I am God and your brain going, oh my God I cant say that if I say that I will lose it. Then you determine that it is egoic. I could be wrong but I dont see it as egoic but I can understand why people do think it is, because they think if they say it that the person is thinking it gives them any sort of power. To me its like saying I am the simulation I am in.

People do lose it but you can see those people easily.

Imagine if we lived in a world where they all said they were God. Meaning when we interact we know we chose to be with those people, we specifically chose to be around the people and interacting with things we create. The world would be closer and people wouldnt feel like they are stuck.

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo

[PurpleTree]

Yea i just feel like the God thing is a bit of an spiritual egoic trap for many. It doesn’t really matter. There’s probably no free will to choose anyway. But i feel like from what I’ve seen it was also the case for Leo that the God thing went overboard a bit.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia Are you saying there is a grandiose thing,that contains and has the qualities of everything (including your body), making a statement from that body inside that thing saying you cant know it to be real? This is your chance to know God as a human inside of God.

No, what I'm saying is that "thing" is everything. There's no grandiose anything that contains anything. There is no God to know. All your knowledge is illusory. Everything you think you know is nothing being that. There is no you that knows anything. Nothing is known. This is unknowable. Of course, it appears to be known and that there is knowledge, but it's an illusion and all within the dream of the I.

You cannot know God because God or whatever word you want to use Absolute, This, The All, Brahman, Oneness, Nothing, whatever IS ALL THERE IS. 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia Then how are you talking, expressing a correcting statement? If what you are saying is true to you you would be agreeing with everything I say instead of disagree.

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[Princess Arabia]

14 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia Then how are you talking, expressing a correcting statement? If what you are saying is true to you you would be agreeing with everything I say instead of disagree.

Exactly. Only thing is there is no one here talking, agreeing or disagreeing, or expressing a correcting statement. It's just words mumbling and words responding. So it doesn't matter for there to be an agreement or disagreement. That would imply free will of which there is none. That would also imply someone doing something and knowing something to disagree or agree with. What I'm saying is either way its not right or wrong true or false, it's the All appearing as such. Saying you know God is just the All wording but there's no one there that knows anything. Lol Confused yet?