Can 4-AcOs and 4-HOs be taken orally?

[Nemra]

I would appreciate if anyone could confirm it.

Edited 7 hours ago by Nemra

[shree]

4 AcO DMT Fumarate can be taken oraly.

 

Edited 22 hours ago by shree

[Nemra]

@shree, what about 4-AcO-MET?

Also, can 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-MiPT be taken orally also?

[Nemra]

Hi y'all.

I would appreciate your response to my question.

Edited 7 hours ago by Nemra

[shree]

3 hours ago, Nemra said:

@shree, what about 4-AcO-MET?

Also, can 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-MiPT be taken orally also?

Sadly I have no experience with these.

 

These are somewhat less known chemicals.

 

You can ask Chat GPT to give you this info based on deep research on internet and request to share reference links with you.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by shree

[LambdaDelta]

The question has a faulty premise. Yes, the ones you mention can be taken orally (I've done them all), but understand why. Virtually all 4-sub tryptamines are sold as fumarate salts (for stability). If there's nothing else to go off on, the best predictor for whether a substance can be taken orally is whether it's in a salt (HCL, fumarate, succinate, oxalate, benzoate...) form or freebase. Generally speaking the salts you can take orally and rectally, insufflate and inject them. Freebase is for vaporization only. But there's always exceptions. DMT in salt forms still won't be active orally without MAOI supplementation. 5-MeO-DMT breaks down in the stomach much like Salvinorin A, rendering that route completely inactive. But those can still have some effect when taken sublingually. 

This forum nor AI are good places to ask such things, if you're serious it's best to do own research.

Edited 5 hours ago by LambdaDelta