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🚨 A Dictatorial Coup Is Taking Place Within The United States Right Now 🚨

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3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Americans elected a Republican Congress, SCOTUS is Republican, what fourth branch are you referring to for "seperation of powers"?

About giving the executive branch more power.

Or trump just breaking the law.

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7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Americans elected a Republican Congress, SCOTUS is Republican, what fourth branch are you referring to for "seperation of powers"?

The federal agencies he's dismantling and gutting were set up by Congress. He cannot shut them down with exec orders--he has to go through Congress. If he went through Congress to do it, I wouldn't say much about it other than that I disagree. Doing it with Exec Orders is the problem. 

He hasn't directly defied the courts yet, but Musk's talk about impeaching judges Is not a good sign. 

So -- that's 1 branch he's directly defied, and a 2nd branch a key quasi-appointee (the legal status of Musk and DOGE is a separate side issue) has threatened to attack. I don't need a 4th branch for my argument -- that's 2 of the 3 branches. There's no need to misconstrue what I say. 

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He already should have been executed by now, the fact we have to talk about this is insane.

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Just now, The Crocodile said:

He already should have been executed by now, the fact we have to talk about this is insane.

Maybe but it's not very helpful to go here outside of your in-group. 

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1 minute ago, nerdspeak said:

Maybe but it's not very helpful to go here outside of your in-group. 

They need a good jolt.

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1 minute ago, nerdspeak said:

The federal agencies he's dismantling and gutting were set up by Congress. He cannot shut them down with exec orders--he has to go through Congress. If he went through Congress to do it, I wouldn't say much about it other than that I disagree. Doing it with Exec Orders is the problem. 

He hasn't directly defied the courts yet, but Musk's talk about impeaching judges Is not a good sign. 

That's for Congress to decide with impeachment, or the voters with elections. Congress has decided he has not done anything wrong. 

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On 20/02/2025 at 5:48 AM, Leo Gura said:

The only realistic way out of this mess is a rude awakening. Either a market crash or some kind of geopolitical disaster like a war. Something ugly and nasty.

There already are wars, and Americans don't feel a breeze of it, so who's gonna go to war with the United States? 

2017-2021 Trump seemed like an aggressive leader, it made me think he was more likely to push the US into war, but today with his Putin bromance and blaming Ukraine he and his goons turned out to be cowards, he made the US and the US military look like cowards.

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51 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

@Elliott 

Lest we forget, MAGA has already tried to kill several of our elected representives, including Mike Pence and the Governor of my home state.

Moreover, thanks to the hostile takeover and subsequent politicization of the FBI by MAGA extremists, they won't be trying to stop these attacks on our elected officials (or the public, for that

All great reasons to contact your republican representatives, and arguments to campaign on against republicans, not to catastrophize though.

Say we go even just 2 years to midterms, and you all are screaming "end of democracy, constitutional crisis", we get a legal election, democrats gain some seats and all of a sudden your crying wolf is exposed and subsequently everyone is exhausted and unplugged from politics and no longer listen to leftists scream into the void. This is a republican trap, no different than culture war noise, it get's people to tune out of politics, if you stay level headed republicans will look worse and worse and we will get rid of the cockroaches once and for all. We can use trumps antics to our advantage, he will cause a blue wave if we don't obfuscate the situation with emotional reactivity.

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2 hours ago, DocWatts said:

Of course this would be highly illegal and unconstitutional, but Laws only matter if there are people with power willing to enforce them.

It seems they are also now into the Army. The Army is suppoused to protect the people from powers that threaten the people. I was telling some one this and the answer was: 

"Our military will never follow illegal orders to..."

Let me stop you there

This is what you are not getting: They are not illegal orders. Trump orders an invasion of our neighbors? He orders the army to use force on Americans for "national security?" those are LEGAL orders until Congress and/or the Courts say otherwise.

Remember when you were told there was more at stake than the presidency?

We handed Trump unlimited power and total immunity without any limits.

YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN UP

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3 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

It seems they are also now into the Army. The Army is suppoused to protect the people from powers that threaten the people. I was telling some one this and the answer was: 

"Our military will never follow illegal orders to..."

Let me stop you there

This is what you are not getting: They are not illegal orders. Trump orders an invasion of our neighbors? He orders the army to use force on Americans for "national security?" those are LEGAL orders until Congress and/or the Courts say otherwise.

Remember when you were told there was more at stake than the presidency?

We handed Trump unlimited power and total immunity without any limits.

YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN UP

No, the military can only deploy a small number of forces without congressional approval FIRST. And States have their own armies.

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5 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Hiding in plain sigtht. Is possible.

I'm reading this now. The author backs what was written in the guardian article that you posted.

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