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🚨 A Dictatorial Coup Is Taking Place Within The United States Right Now 🚨

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8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Liberalism ain't going anywhere. It's just obscured by noisy fools.

just saying it's on a down period that might be short-term, however short-term might still be a lot longer than we expect.
 

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If Ukraine wants to be so liberal and democratic, let them hold elections. Now it is a dictatorship where people are forced to go to war. Let the people decide if they want this or not.

 Or maybe we know that they don't want to, but for their own good and that of their country we have to force them? Russia hold elections and the war was supported, and those who go are volunteers

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9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Breakingthewall  None of that justifies violation of international law and treaties which Russia itself committed to for respecting Ukrainian borders.

Just because there's some local fighting going on does not mean you get to disregard and expunge an entire nation.

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No one is threatening Russia's survival. Putin is just paranoid of his own corrupt system collapsing.

Threats don’t just come  from military invasion - they can come from long term geopolitical encirclement, economic strangulation, and regime change efforts.

Russia has watched for decades as the US and its allies toppled governments, launched wars, and used economic and military pressure to weaken adversaries - and this same machine is coming to its backyard, that's not paranoia but looking at history and the present situation with that history in mind. Should someone get a mortgage with bad credit? Should the US get to play encirclement and empire?

This same machine / establishment blob has think tanks like RAND openly strategize about overextending Russia, pushing it into economic and military exhaustion. NATO expansion, which multiple US officials warned would provoke Russia, kept marching forward anyway. Every diplomatic off-ramp was ignored or rejected. 

Of course Biden and the West should support Ukraine in defense, the problem is why didn't Bidden or the West at least try go the diplomatic route and speak to Putin in the whole 3 years? Why not try to de-escalate. Escalation isn't just about what you do but refuse to do. Refusing diplomacy and continuing anti-Russia rhetoric is just as bad as escalating when the stakes are supposedly this high ie dealing with a nuclear power the size of Russia at Europe's doorstep.

The West is shocked at Russia’s actions, but if you have a rabid dog in the neighborhood destroying gardens, and see it start to get closer to your own - are you expected to do nothing? It’s like poking a bear for years and acting surprised when it mauls you. That doesn’t justify the mauling - but it makes it predictable. The same logic applies to Hamas on October 7th. You can categorically condemn the attack while also recognizing that it didn’t happen in a vacuum. When people are pushed into desperate, impossible situations - a nation facing encirclement or a population under decades of military occupation - eventually, they lash out. That doesn’t make the response right, but it makes it understandable.

The problem with the Western narrative is that it only looks at the reaction, never the provocation. And international law doesn't outlaw provocation, only the final reaction to it. Powerful nations can provoke indefinitely, but the moment their target finally reacts, they get to play the victim and rally the world against “aggression.” Provocation isn’t easily quantifiable. It’s not like a single violation you can point to; it’s cumulative, a gradual escalation of pressures, threats, and red lines being crossed over time. It’s death by a thousand cuts, and when the final reaction happens, it looks like the aggressor just snapped without cause.

If international law actually wanted to prevent war, it wouldn’t just criminalize the reaction - it would criminalize the path that leads to war. Order can't just be about punishing those who break the rules, but stopping those who engineer the conditions that make rule breaking inevitable.

 

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't forget why Americans have so much power. It's because the American system is superior to all the other systems that have been tried aside from Scandinavia. And Putin ain't Scandinavia.

Don't hate on America so much that you overlook the obvious superiority of the American system relative to its alternatives.

The irony of saying ''Putin is just paranoid of his own corrupt system collapsing'' is that its the West that can't stand any other system existing and challenging its own. They can't stand power sharing and multi-polarity - they feel entitled to being the head of the table, not just merely having a seat at it.

Why do we think Donald is threatening the BRICS countries to not create a rival currency? If a country dares to challenge the US dollar, it gets bombed into the stone age - meanwhile the people of that country are painted as barbarics who need civilizing, while the West is the one approaching them with the stone age mentality of might makes right.

 If a country tries socialism, it gets sanctioned, destabilized, or outright invaded. If a country nationalizes its resources, it gets overthrown. The largest vulture fund BlackRock literally calls ''resource nationalism'' a threat. Even the UK government website does - ''Resource nationalism is defined as anti-competitive behavior designed to restrict the international supply of a natural resource.'' https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/resource-nationalism - imagine that, people wanting their own resources beneath their feet. 

If a country wants to remain neutral, it gets pressured, bullied, and coerced into picking a side - like Ukraine for example. The idea is that anyone's freedom anywhere, is a threat to the Wests supremacy everywhere. This is the characteristic attitude of Western imperialism, that gets a cosmetic change when Trump walks in after Biden, but no fundamental change.

In this superior system, democracy is supported by forceful un-democratic practices abroad and domestic quality of life is subsidized by disqualifying others from using any other currency. Maintaining the privilege of the dollar as the world reserve currency allows them to print money, export inflation, run endless deficits and sanction ''adversaries''.  Maybe Russia should try adopt this system too..creating and sustaining a global war economy, using think tanks and policy manipulation to ensure constant war, and systematically destabilizing entire regions for strategic control. 

This system isn’t self-sustaining or universally superior. It works for the US because it makes sure it doesn’t work for others. It's success is built on its ability to impose itself on others - often at their expense. This is a system that very much doesn't work for many nations because they are on the receiving end of it, not the benefactors of it - which is why they seek alternatives like BRICS.

The thing with Western imperialism is that it's not a series of isolated mistakes, or a occasional lapse into brutality - it's a continuous, characteristic, and catastrophic system of domination that no other nation or civilization has ever matched or could even hope to replicate.

Other countries commit wrongs, but their wrongs are events that happen in response to crises, conflicts, or shifts in power. Western wrongs are not events - they're just the backdrop against which the modern world operates. The wrongs of China, Russia, or other powers are events bound to specific historical contexts. The wrongs of the West are structural in that this is the civilizational modus operandi. 

 

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