🚨 A Dictatorial Coup Is Taking Place Within The United States Right Now 🚨

[The Crocodile]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Americans elected a Republican Congress, SCOTUS is Republican, what fourth branch are you referring to for "seperation of powers"?

About giving the executive branch more power.

Or trump just breaking the law.

[nerdspeak]

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Americans elected a Republican Congress, SCOTUS is Republican, what fourth branch are you referring to for "seperation of powers"?

The federal agencies he's dismantling and gutting were set up by Congress. He cannot shut them down with exec orders--he has to go through Congress. If he went through Congress to do it, I wouldn't say much about it other than that I disagree. Doing it with Exec Orders is the problem. 

He hasn't directly defied the courts yet, but Musk's talk about impeaching judges Is not a good sign. 

So -- that's 1 branch he's directly defied, and a 2nd branch a key quasi-appointee (the legal status of Musk and DOGE is a separate side issue) has threatened to attack. I don't need a 4th branch for my argument -- that's 2 of the 3 branches. There's no need to misconstrue what I say. 

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[The Crocodile]

He already should have been executed by now, the fact we have to talk about this is insane.

[nerdspeak]

Just now, The Crocodile said:

He already should have been executed by now, the fact we have to talk about this is insane.

Maybe but it's not very helpful to go here outside of your in-group. 

[The Crocodile]

1 minute ago, nerdspeak said:

Maybe but it's not very helpful to go here outside of your in-group. 

They need a good jolt.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, nerdspeak said:

The federal agencies he's dismantling and gutting were set up by Congress. He cannot shut them down with exec orders--he has to go through Congress. If he went through Congress to do it, I wouldn't say much about it other than that I disagree. Doing it with Exec Orders is the problem. 

He hasn't directly defied the courts yet, but Musk's talk about impeaching judges Is not a good sign. 

That's for Congress to decide with impeachment, or the voters with elections. Congress has decided he has not done anything wrong. 

[MarkKol]

On 20/02/2025 at 5:48 AM, Leo Gura said:

The only realistic way out of this mess is a rude awakening. Either a market crash or some kind of geopolitical disaster like a war. Something ugly and nasty.

There already are wars, and Americans don't feel a breeze of it, so who's gonna go to war with the United States? 

2017-2021 Trump seemed like an aggressive leader, it made me think he was more likely to push the US into war, but today with his Putin bromance and blaming Ukraine he and his goons turned out to be cowards, he made the US and the US military look like cowards.

[Rafael Thundercat]

To add to the cringe soup now the Tate Brothers are back.

Reality really can take unespected weird turns. 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/feb/21/andrew-tate-trump-administration?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

[Elliott]

51 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

@Elliott 

Lest we forget, MAGA has already tried to kill several of our elected representives, including Mike Pence and the Governor of my home state.

Moreover, thanks to the hostile takeover and subsequent politicization of the FBI by MAGA extremists, they won't be trying to stop these attacks on our elected officials (or the public, for that

All great reasons to contact your republican representatives, and arguments to campaign on against republicans, not to catastrophize though.

Say we go even just 2 years to midterms, and you all are screaming "end of democracy, constitutional crisis", we get a legal election, democrats gain some seats and all of a sudden your crying wolf is exposed and subsequently everyone is exhausted and unplugged from politics and no longer listen to leftists scream into the void. This is a republican trap, no different than culture war noise, it get's people to tune out of politics, if you stay level headed republicans will look worse and worse and we will get rid of the cockroaches once and for all. We can use trumps antics to our advantage, he will cause a blue wave if we don't obfuscate the situation with emotional reactivity.

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[Rafael Thundercat]

2 hours ago, DocWatts said:

Of course this would be highly illegal and unconstitutional, but Laws only matter if there are people with power willing to enforce them.

It seems they are also now into the Army. The Army is suppoused to protect the people from powers that threaten the people. I was telling some one this and the answer was: 

"Our military will never follow illegal orders to..."

Let me stop you there

This is what you are not getting: They are not illegal orders. Trump orders an invasion of our neighbors? He orders the army to use force on Americans for "national security?" those are LEGAL orders until Congress and/or the Courts say otherwise.

Remember when you were told there was more at stake than the presidency?

We handed Trump unlimited power and total immunity without any limits.

YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN UP

[Elliott]

3 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

It seems they are also now into the Army. The Army is suppoused to protect the people from powers that threaten the people. I was telling some one this and the answer was: 

"Our military will never follow illegal orders to..."

Let me stop you there

This is what you are not getting: They are not illegal orders. Trump orders an invasion of our neighbors? He orders the army to use force on Americans for "national security?" those are LEGAL orders until Congress and/or the Courts say otherwise.

Remember when you were told there was more at stake than the presidency?

We handed Trump unlimited power and total immunity without any limits.

YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN UP

No, the military can only deploy a small number of forces without congressional approval FIRST. And States have their own armies.

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[Rafael Thundercat]

The problem of endorsments of influencers. Lets never forget the podcasters who in certain measure supported this douchebags Joe Rogans and others.

https://cultmtl.com/2025/02/pierre-poilievre-has-racked-up-endorsements-from-a-whos-who-of-fascists-fraudsters-and-alt-right-influencers/

Now we have even a Trump wannabe twin in Canada. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

This is a good time to study Fascism. We are having a immersive workshop

https://www.conspirituality.net/episodes/brief-antifascist-woodshed

 

[Breathe]

5 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Hiding in plain sigtht. Is possible.

I'm reading this now. The author backs what was written in the guardian article that you posted.

[Rafael Thundercat]

This is from a woman neurodivergent that I follow. Wow, somehow this people were born in the rigth time in history because they can find stuff and connections normal people would never do. I think they like the precons of minority report. This is what she said:

I've said for years that this 1983 talk is one of the most important videos online.

"KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov on USSR's subversion strategy to collapse Western societies in 4 steps, "without firing a single shot".

With 🍊 alleged as KGB asset Krasnov, it's now done:

1. Demoralization: Undermining values via media, institutions

2. Destabilization: Weakening economy, politics, justice

3. Crisis: Manufactured chaos

4. Normalization: New, authoritarian order.
 

How can someone teach something so malificentike this and nobody jump on his throat? 

[TheEnigma]

On 2/20/2025 at 2:45 AM, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura Oh wow that's a very valuable perspective. I guess all this daily reading of New York Times and all the new actions trump was taking got me overreacting then if life on an individual level goes on as business as usual for the most part. 

It does make sense to, as one commonality I see in all of trumps actions is to simply attain more wealth and power. I don't see Hitler-level evil in him, even though we are moving towards an authoritarian government. Maybe there's an important distinction between authoritarian government and Hitler-level or Putin-level chaos. Though I really don't know much about politics to know whether Trump is just after money and power or he truly has war-type tendencies. 

I appreciate this. I didn't even realize how fearful I was until you gave this perspective. I thought I was calmer than I really was. 

On 2/20/2025 at 3:58 AM, Leo Gura said:

@Jayson G You are misusing the news. You should consume news in bits to get important new developments. Not mindlessly clicking on every bit that some algorithm serves up for you to consume like a pig at the trough.

Check the news once a week, and don't read anything about topics you already figured out. You know Musk and Trump by now, you don't need to consume any more about them. You don't need to consume every latest nonsense they said.

And you don't need a bunch of more AI news. Either use the AI tools or don't. Enough reading about them. We know how AI works and you don't need the latest model, they are all basically alike.

You have to focus your attention on what really matters. News is never what really matters.

I have to respectfully disagree with Leo here. First of all not everyone is capable or desires running their own business. And secondly, many individuals are largely impacted by Political decisions whether they follow the news or not. Of course following the news just makes reality even more bleak, so for that I agree, don't follow the news. But for example, I work in corporate. Most of the jobs are being taken over by immigrants now. You can't just go tell everyone there to run their own business or be creative. Many individuals don't even have work even if they are creative, they're just not talented or fast enough or have enough energy. It's not that easy. You can be creative and think of something? So have many people. Most Citizens do get affected by Government and political decisions. They might not be killed in a war. But it's still bad enough that many people can't even find work. It's not just bad inflation. Then stimulus cheques are coming. Who wants to rely on that? So yes day to day people do get impacted largely! Leo is treating it like as long as the individual doesn't watch the news they're unlikely to be affected much as long as they go outside and touch grass. Things in my city are expensive as hell. That even making a 100k salary a year now is still barely enough to get by. I am from Toronto and people will have to leave somewhere else. And he's talking as if politicians don't affect most people...

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[Rafael Thundercat]

14 minutes ago, TheEnigma said:

I have to respectfully disagree with Leo here. First of all not everyone is capable or desires running their own business. And secondly, many individuals are largely impacted by Political decisions. Of course following the news just makes reality even more bleak. But for example, I work in corporate. Most of the jobs are being taken over by immigrants now. You can't just go tell everyone there to run their own business or be creative. Many individuals don't even have work even if they are creative, they're just not talented or fast enough or have enough energy. It's not that easy. 

Leo Takes on the Reality of Absolute Love and Love being God,Truth and a lack of Difference and a lack of bias and Selflessness is amazing. But truth be said, in the end of the day we are not living 24/7 in this state and yeah, even if he tell time is relative, truth is, we are relativisticaly living in this time and facing our daily life. So for me, this times are not for Stoic posing. Keep the cool yes, but also cut some heads. 

Because is with delulus and madman we are dealing

 

 

[TheEnigma]

On 2/20/2025 at 1:36 AM, Leo Gura said:

I don't see the point in that unless you are maybe an illegal immigrant. And even then it probably doesn't make sense.

Our political situation is bad, but you should be careful not to over-react to it.

Realistically you can look forward to a market crash, but even then it's not a reason to leave the country. And don't forget that you can still be successful in the middle of a market crash. I made lots of money in 2008-2010 when everyone was complaining about a bad market. Your individual performance has little to do with large average trends. The market could crash 50% but you could still have the best career of your life. People were making careers in the midst of WW2. So don't overreact. You should focus on being productive and creative, not wallowing in political doom and gloom. By the time Trump crashes the market you could start a business and earn a million dollars. Watch less news and focus on your creative work.

On 2/20/2025 at 3:58 AM, Leo Gura said:

@Jayson G You are misusing the news. You should consume news in bits to get important new developments. Not mindlessly clicking on every bit that some algorithm serves up for you to consume like a pig at the trough.

Check the news once a week, and don't read anything about topics you already figured out. You know Musk and Trump by now, you don't need to consume any more about them. You don't need to consume every latest nonsense they said.

And you don't need a bunch of more AI news. Either use the AI tools or don't. Enough reading about them. We know how AI works and you don't need the latest model, they are all basically alike.

You have to focus your attention on what really matters. News is never what really matters.

Good advice. But you are also being too idealistic.

[Rafael Thundercat]

To summary the mindself of this fuckup like Curtis Yarvis here is a thread i found on threads. This is the internal dialoge of those Egos.

No one likes me.
No one likes my ideas.
No one is interested in letting me get my way.
But my way is the only way, and I am not interested in hearing what you think. You will tell me I’m wrong. But you don’t like me, so YOU must be wrong.

Why would I listen to someone who doesn’t like me and thinks I’m wrong?


Democracy requires me to talk to other people. To listen to other people. To consider other people. That all sounds stupid and annoying because I don’t like those people and they don’t like me or my radical ideas.

I am not interested in working with people to have a system that works for me AND other people.

What I want is what I want and it needs to appeal to me. I reject outside influences and I reject thoughts that are not my own. I will be invalidated if I allow someone else to change my ideas.

If what I want works for others that means they are like me; good for them.

But working with others sounds hard. I don’t want hard. I want my way. And I want it without pushback.


Working with others means I have to be a decent human and see others as equals. But I am exceptional. It is pointless and a waste of time to consider the views of those who are not as smart and special as me.

If I accept the idea of democracy, then I would have to interact with people who are less than me. If I compromise with them, that means I can’t have my way.

I will remove the annoying barrier of cooperation so I can have my way with no friction. If it hurts others, that’s ok.


I am hurt by others. They deserve this.

I am hurt by others. They don’t see me as special.

I am hurt by others. I will hurt them back.

I am hurt by others. I will find other hurt people who think like me to hurt everyone else.

I am hurt by others. So I will make sure everyone else gets angry too and starts hurting each other.

I spent time carefully justifying my retaliation with proposals layered in logical fallacies disguised as reasonable arguments for my ideas.


If I can make enough people angry, they will realize my ideas were the only right ideas all along. I just had to do some really hard things to trick them and force them to see and do things my way.

If I pull it off, it proves I’m special.

Once I get my way I won’t need those people to like me anymore. I can put them to work as slaves to my system. They will have no choice. They were already slaves to a broken democratic system, now they will be slaves to me and my privatized system.


If you don’t like it, tough. You should have treated me like I’m special and important and let me force my extreme ideas into your system in the first place.

You made me do this.

And since I did the hard work to destroy your old, broken system and replace it with my own I deserve this.


You can call me racist or fascist or hurl any other accusation you want at me. I won’t care. I did this hard work to reward myself for putting up with all your democratic “fairness” I don’t agree with.

I’ve been unfairly subjected to what I don’t like about everyone else my whole life. I don’t think it’s fair to me that you won’t include my extreme ideas into the system.

So I need to destroy your system and replace it with my extremes. Then I will be in charge of what I think is fair.


I don’t see you as an equal, remember? So what I think is fair is you should suffer now too. After all, I’ve suffered just watching you exist.

I can’t stand you other inferior people taking up space, breathing my air, benefiting from my efforts, getting government assistance, living in ways I would never want to live.

You disgust me, but I can still use you.

With my system, I will own you and if you don’t produce for me, I will eliminate you. It’s that simple.

I am Gov-Corp. I am all that’s left. I stole your system. I stripped it for parts. I privatized what can profitable and torched the remaining framework in my path. You can’t push me aside and “go back to normal.” Your old normal no longer exists.

You still don’t like me. That’s ok.

I got my way.

I think it might help if we stop trying to educate the masses about the CONTENT of their intent. Their philosophies are tough to ingest much less digest. If we can plainly broadcast the psychology behind their words by interpreting and distilling the evil of their semantics and language gymnastics, it might help the cause to drum up more public awareness and resistance.

Right now it still seems fringe even to the aware. Time is running out to educate and mobilize and WIN.

What do you think?