My dad and mom torture seafood

[TheEnigma]

13 hours ago, Elliott said:

Happy people are torturing lobsters?

In another thread a guy kicked a dog trying to bite him and he feels terrible.

Most people are miserable, some hide it, some are open about it. If karma doesn't exist, then it isn't needed anyway. Being good doesn't make you happy though or your life better, but being happy makes you good.

You're going to make me read Consider the lobster by david Wallace again.

The weird thing is that my parents are not bad people. And are mostly compassionate. Just when they kill to eat, they believe in that if the creature suffers the longest then the blood rises to it's head and it will taste better. If the animal is lively and strong, then it will also taste better. IS me feeling sorry for it my own ego then?

[TheEnigma]

19 hours ago, integral said:

Another important point, is karma from a lower perspective is part of a larger domain of lower spirituality, and most people are in this bubble.

Got to really examine your entire concept of spirituality.

In the same way religious people confuse what they believe as highest spirituality.

Good replies. But I feel compassion for animals and seafood. Is it just my own ego? I put myself in the shoes of the animal and think as someone is killing me "God please cause my killers the same suffering as they're doing to me!!" Okay but if what you are saying is that consciousness balances itself out at higher conscious levels, couldn't my parents just think"great, so I can harm animals, because the universe and karma balances itself out anyway. So there will be no direct consequences to me!" 

Edited Tuesday at 09:31 AM by TheEnigma

[TheEnigma]

10 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Then i‘m glad my mother never caused suffering to animals for fun.

She‘s even willing to take animals out of their misery when she sees them suffering a lot.

Like one time she saw a cat getting hit by a car and saw that it suffered, took a knife and wanted to take the cat out of its misery. Gladly the cat died on itself.

Aww well. good for your mother. I wished everyone thought like her. Again, but now I am judgning her in a good way. Is that just my own ego again?

[TheEnigma]

3 hours ago, ivarmaya said:

Your behavior and your level of consciousness are directly connected…one shapes the other in a continuous loop. Your actions aren’t just random choices…they’re an extension of your state of being. The more someone engages in cruelty, deception, or selfishness…the more they embody what could be called “devilish” tendencies…the lower their consciousness sinks. This isn’t about morality or judgment, it’s just how reality works. Consciousness and behavior feed into each other.

Low-consciousness behavior comes from separation, illusion, and a lack of consciousness. Acts of cruelty, manipulation, and domination happen when someone is deeply identified with their ego…the part of them that sees itself as separate from everything else and is constantly trying to control and dominate to feel secure. But that’s a false perception. Reality is interconnected, and consciousness, at its core, is unified. The more someone acts from a place of separation, the more they reinforce their own suffering. Not because they’re being “punished,” but because they’re building a fragmented and disconnected experience of reality.

This suffering isn’t always obvious. Someone can look happy while indulging in destructive behavior, but that happiness is fragile and dependent on external distractions…whether it’s pleasure, power, or control. It’s unsustainable because it’s built on illusion. Beneath the surface, they’re trapped in a cycle of tension, craving, and existential emptiness. No matter how much they suppress it, it’s there. As well as they are going “against” reality, which always has it’s consequences.

This is why people with higher consciousness naturally embody compassion and non-domination. It’s not because they follow rules or because they want to be seen as “good.” It’s because when you see reality clearly, you naturally align with love, wisdom, and peace. Not because you “should,” but because it just makes sense. When separation is seen as an illusion, cruelty and domination stop being appealing…they’re recognized as self-destructive.

What people call “karma” isn’t some cosmic punishment system keeping score. It’s just the natural feedback loop of reality. Since your consciousness and behavior are intertwined, actions that come from a low state of being reinforce that state, and actions that come from clarity and unity reinforce higher consciousness. This isn’t a rule imposed from outside, it’s just how reality organizes itself.

That’s why suffering isn’t some arbitrary consequence…it’s a direct result of unconsciousness. It’s not that “bad” actions lead to suffering in a cause-and-effect way. Rather, destructive behavior is already a symptom of a fragmented, suffering mind. The more you operate from that place, the more you trap yourself in lower states of consciousness. On the other hand, the more you act from truth/love, the more you experience peace…not because you’re being “rewarded,” but because that’s the nature of reality itself.

These are the basics.

I've even gone so far as to think, my dad is God, enjoying that aspect that crabs and lobsters are also God feeling pain, and enjoy watching it suffer to death. God is torturing itself and finding it fun. Is what I am saying true?