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[Davino]

Rastafaris really use ganja for spiritual work.

It's interesting to note the wide variety of religions out there, it's not that clear cut as one might think. The field is quite rich and multifaceted. 

[Grateful Dead]

When used like other psychedelics, cannabis is a great tool for spiritual work. But it is very tricky because it can easily be abused and then used unconsciously. Once it becomes a habit, it blocks your spiritual growth, so you have to be very disciplined with it. That is my experience anyway...

[Schizophonia]

Weed makes life magical.
If I walk in nature while smoking for example, I will have the impression of "being in Asia".

 

If what i say makes sense. 

[Davino]

On 17/2/2025 at 2:24 PM, Grateful Dead said:

When used like other psychedelics, cannabis is a great tool for spiritual work. But it is very tricky because it can easily be abused and then used unconsciously. Once it becomes a habit, it blocks your spiritual growth, so you have to be very disciplined with it. That is my experience anyway...

It's hard to do and I definitely experience many sides to my cannabis consumption but there's surely a lot of potential as well; for the Rastafari culture herb seems to work in making one more conscious and for inner work.

I have found that the more I smoke Salvia the more profound my weed experiences become.

[Davino]

On 17/2/2025 at 9:36 PM, Schizophonia said:

Weed makes life magical.
If I walk in nature while smoking for example, I will have the impression of "being in Asia".

Cannabis is its own state of consciousness. It affects all dimensions of Consciousness.

[Paradoxed]

@DavinoI miss marijuana. If I didn't have so many responsibilities, and had more money, I think I'd indulge more often. People definitely underestimate its potential and write it off. It can a great creative and spiritual tool. Of course anything too much can be harmful.

How often do you do Salvia? I find that marijuana has a unique relationship with other psychedelics. It has definitely sent me back to LSD, 5meo trips, etc.

Edited Tuesday at 11:40 PM by Paradoxed

[Davino]

@Paradoxed The state that cannabis puts me in is more interconnected and holistic but with a lower access to the full potential of my mind and a different range of states of consciousness.

It's like I lose my freshness, memory and groundedness, for a more limited yet more creative, interconnected, energetic state.

9 hours ago, Paradoxed said:

How often do you do Salvia? I find that marijuana has a unique relationship with other psychedelics. It has definitely sent me back to LSD, 5meo trips, etc.

I don't recommend Salvia. Don't do Salvia, if you decide to do some, it's on you.

I do Salvia when it calls me, that's how I do psychedelics. I do low doses of Salvia and have discovered that a weed+salvia spliff gives the experience a super nice extra spin. The fact of both being pure smoked herbs makes an almost biochemical fit in the organism and blend nicely in my consciousness.

Salvia gives weed the out of the box thinking and removes much of its limitations with the cost of safety mind systems to be temporarily removed.

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, Davino said:

Cannabis is its own state of consciousness. It affects all dimensions of Consciousness.

That said, it's a bit a stupid and quite feminine frequency, and it's associated with both brain damage and lower testosterone.

 

[Davino]

Honestly for me it's the overloading of the nervous system, that's the biggest negative effect.

Brain damage with weed is 100% reversible (unless you over consumed in your teens or development years). Testosterone can be calibrated back again.

22 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It's a bit a stupid and quite feminine frequency

That's why I only take Viagra and cocaine, the rest is for pussies.

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

Honestly for me it's the overloading of the nervous system, that's the biggest negative effect.

Brain damage with weed is 100% reversible (unless you over consumed in your teens or development years). Testosterone can be calibrated back again.

I had read articles about damage to the hippocampus, but indeed it is very controversial, probably much less worse than alcohol or amphetamines.
And then you are right, it depends on the frequency of consumption, the quantity and the ROA; Smoking a joint or eating a space cake here and there will probably never be a problem.

From where I look absolutely everything is reversible, these are just scientific rationalizations about what is happening in the Maya, in the frequency shift ; Which worries me is the frequency shift, a frequency that does not seem great to sink into/identify.

It must be different for everyone, but for me it is mind-numbing, it makes me paranoid, and has a pretty "dirty" vibe in general.
A bit like LSD but worse in fact.

It may be different for you, if so so much the better.

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That's why I only take Viagra and cocaine, the rest is for pussies.

Actually cocaine is feminine too, estrogens have a somewhat similar action on the brain. 🤓

 

I prefer to feel "warm" and stress-free. I love ketamine, opioids and the feeling after intense exercise. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 10:25 AM by Schizophonia

[Davino]

7 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

I had read articles about damage to the hippocampus, but indeed it is very controversial, probably much less worse than alcohol or amphetamines.
And then you are right, it depends on the frequency of consumption, the quantity and the ROA; Smoking a joint or eating a space cake here and there will probably never be a problem.

From where I look absolutely everything is reversible, these are just scientific rationalizations about what is happening in the Maya, in the frequency shift ; Which worries me is the frequency shift, a frequency that does not seem great to sink into/identify.

It must be different for everyone, but for me it is mind-numbing, it makes me paranoid, and has a pretty "dirty" vibe in general.
A bit like LSD but worse in fact.

I experience the same sometimes. Especially if I have to interact with other humans I feel weird.

7 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

I prefer to feel "warm" and stress-free. I love ketamine, opioids and the feeling after intense exercise. 

I get you. At this point every substance is a state of consciousness to be explored and keys to many aspects of life if wisely used.

[Paradoxed]

@Davino  I've done salvia a bunch. I very rarely feel the call towards it. Never mixed with marijuana. 

nn-DMT plus weed makes the experience quite different, almost demonic. But marijuana and LSD always mixed really well and intensified the experience in a way I really enjoyed. Helpful on the comedown too. I always felt marijuana was very psychedelic but this increased after LSD trips. Then there are 5meo reactivations which felt like I literally just smoked 5meo again.

I probably have brain damage from constant weed smoking throughout my teenage years. Marijuana plus caffeine consumption made me into quite an anxious and neurotic individual. Now smoking weed feels childish, but really nostalgic.

[Davino]

@Paradoxed Makes sense, thanks for sharing 

[LambdaDelta]

14 hours ago, Davino said:

I do Salvia when it calls me, that's how I do psychedelics. I do low doses of Salvia and have discovered that a weed+salvia spliff gives the experience a super nice extra spin

So you basically roll a joint full of weed and Salvia, yeah? What kind of proportions and strength of extract? This seems something to consider, smoking Salvia from a pipe is disgustingly harsh, nor really has an effect on me besides anxiety. 

How do you deal with the nasty smell, taste, and coughing of weed? Though apparently many people like it. I'd pay decent money for an odorless, tasteless strain of cannabis. Seems these guys wanted to make something like that, but it hasn't gotten anywhere atm.
https://cannabco.ca/odourless-cannabis/

Back when I used to smoke weed as a teen, always preferred hash, lots of that in Spain, doesn't smell nearly as bad and takes up far less volume with basically identical effect profile. Though my sights have always been set on better stuff like magic mushrooms and LSD. 

[Paradoxed]

1 hour ago, LambdaDelta said:

How do you deal with the nasty smell, taste, and coughing of weed? Though apparently many people like it. I'd pay decent money for an odorless, tasteless strain of cannabis. Seems these guys wanted to make something like that, but it hasn't gotten anywhere atm.
https://cannabco.ca/odourless-cannabis/

Just take THC edibles to preserve your lungs.

Edited yesterday at 12:51 AM by Paradoxed

[Davino]

2 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

So you basically roll a joint full of weed and Salvia, yeah? What kind of proportions and strength of extract?

Yes, you'll have to find the right dose spot for you through experimentation. I use dry leaves although you may need more or less.

2 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

This seems something to consider, smoking Salvia from a pipe is disgustingly harsh, nor really has an effect on me besides anxiety. 

Oh no, there's no way around that.

Salvia is what it is you gotta Love it both sides.

2 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

How do you deal with the nasty smell, taste, and coughing of weed?

I use carbon active filters for smoking. After the wheel, the second best invention. Takes out most of the shit and leaves what you want. 

2 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

Back when I used to smoke weed as a teen, always preferred hash, lots of that in Spain

Yep amazing hashish in our country

Edited yesterday at 01:43 AM by Davino

[LambdaDelta]

13 hours ago, Paradoxed said:

Just take THC edibles to preserve your lungs.

That's an option, however I still have a mild degree of PTSD from a bad edible trip many years ago. Don't really trust others to make them properly, and doing it yourself is a pain.

12 hours ago, Davino said:

I use dry leaves

Unlikely that'll work haha, considering a fat bowl of 40x extract barely does a thing. I have about 10 grams of leaves, interested in doing a pure Salvinorin A extraction at some point, for science if nothing else, though that'll require a larger volume, as it stands the yield would be at most 7mg.

12 hours ago, Davino said:

Oh no, there's no way around that.

Salvia is what it is you gotta Love it both sides.

That's the thing, currently I only get the one side. Similar to aMT whose only effects were being suicidal and headaches, you wouldn't be endlessly patient with such a substance.

12 hours ago, Davino said:

carbon active filters

Awesome, did not know that's a thing, will get some. It's nostalgic looking back at how we'd get some crappy carton filters and fold them in a specific accordion style. They weren't even filters per se, more like stoppers of the herb so that it doesn't fly into your mouth during a puff. Neanderthal levels of technology, we sure came far.