Trapped in infinity

[Breakingthewall]

One of the most horrible sensations with psychedelics is realizing that you are trapped in infinity. here and now you are existing, and there is no way out, there is nowhere to go, there is no escape. You exist, now, for eternity. careful! The blow this gives you is like a cosmic gong of horror. the absolute loneliness, the definitive prison, the total and insurmountable horror.

then you have to open yourself to that horror, open your heart and realize that you are not a prisoner, you are absolutely free because life is in you and it is infinite, bottomless, and it opens for you and the absolute light illuminates you and and you disintegrate into that because you are that

[Someone here]

I don't follow. You can only be trapped or prisoned in a finite limited place . Like you are basically trapped inside your body. When you die you will escape the body and become infinite or dissolve into infinity (probably hehe).

Since reality is infinite in all directions and dimensions you can't be trapped inside it because you can escape to infinity and beyond.  There is always more infinity to escape to . But escaping outside of infinity makes no sense because it is infinite and all-encompassing. 

I also would say take break from psychedelics. Maybe meditate or do yoga .focus on mundane distractions. Etc

Much love .

[Malelekakis]

@Breakingthewall i experienced that without psychedelics sometime ago, multiple panic attacks, lots of crying, depression, couldnt move out of my bed for months. it is called apeirophobia in some non spiritual cyrcles. the realization initiated a full blown year long transformation akin to a kundalini awakening. Eternity torned my psyche like a thin piece of paper. As you open up the horror subsides and you can finally chill. it is not that i understand eternity, it is just that i am friends with it now. i dont understand how it works at all. Its like stretching the finite towards the infinite and in this process all contractions explode. 

[Davino]

@Breakingthewall It really is freaky to recognise your Absoluteness and Infinity; what it truly entails is shocking.

[Breakingthewall]

@Malelekakis @Davino the point is when you realize that the circumstance is curcumstantial but you will always be here and now, immobile and eternal. This realization, when it is real, is very horrible. After this realization comes another realization that is also horrible: the absolute emptiness of reality. When limits are broken and reality expands infinitely, anything that may exist blurs to zero. Reality is zero, lifeless, empty.

If you manage to face this many times the final realization occurs: in the void there is something, there is you. you? what are you? the observer? No, there is no observer, you are the void itself. So, if you are the void, what is that void? Something? It is in you, within you. It opens, you were looking out, you look in. Everything is inside, you see it and you merge with it because you are it. It is the total, the unlimited. The absolute power, absolute life. the unfathomable. you are free.

[Hojo]

@Someone here You are trapped. You are currently stuck in a box. The box is open to the human pov. When you lose the pov you will see the box you cant move out of cause you cant move anywhere and never have. Its like a box that can experience being outside of a box via a window but once the window is gone you see you are still in a box of nothing and just got really good at pretending you weren't in a box.

Human beings and reality is like the shrodingers cat box you are inside the box and you exist because its a possibility and no one can say it cant be.Meditation is about reaching states of not moving for a long time so you become comfortable and calm in your box. You move around in reality because if you stop moving you will see it and its scary and you will see you were running from it. When one dies one sees the box the frozen state of being that you cant escape from.

The human brain is the ultimate limiting device for God it can reach high states of depression or compression, its illusion but it works.

Edited Sunday at 02:24 PM by Hojo

[Aaron p]

If it feels like getting trapped then rethink your approach, it should feel more like release. Your probably doing it wrong somewhere. Something that's become bafflingly obvious to me atm is the fact that Enlightenment and in particular, psycs can be approached correctly or incorrectly. 

Show yourself more grace and love and explore avenues that are less harsh. Possibly try phenethylamines over the likes of tryptamines and lysergemides, they are less heavy and difficult. Use your intuition to discern good pain and bad pain like when working out. If you feel bad pain, stop and rethink approach. I've had to completely overhaul my approach. Become graceful with yourself and skillful with your use of drugs

[Sugarcoat]

Who exists? Existence exists? But if existence is everything with no border then it is also nothing simultaneously so it’s like it doesn’t exist, to exist means to stick out, if nothing sticks out then nothing exists. So how can you be trapped in infinity if infinity is nothing? Will you be conscious forever? What does it mean to be conscious ? It means there is a self that is conscious, but that self won’t feel like it exists forever it will eventually die. Are you consciousness? But if consciousness is nothing then it’s like nothing exists. Tricky.

[Someone here]

3 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Someone here You are trapped. You are currently stuck in a box. The box is open to the human pov. When you lose the pov you will see the box you cant move out of cause you cant move anywhere and never have. Its like a box that can experience being outside of a box via a window but once the window is gone you see you are still in a box of nothing and just got really good at pretending you weren't in a box.

Human beings and reality is like the shrodingers cat box you are inside the box and you exist because its a possibility and no one can say it cant be.Meditation is about reaching states of not moving for a long time so you become comfortable and calm in your box. You move around in reality because if you stop moving you will see it and its scary and you will see you were running from it. When one dies one sees the box the frozen state of being that you cant escape from.

The human brain is the ultimate limiting device for God it can reach high states of depression or compression, its illusion but it works.

Hi hojo . Sorry but these are wild speculations..neither you nor I have died yet so its not appropriate to make defentive claims about what's gonna happen after death of the physical body .believe it or not there is no evidence that death is even a real event that's gonna happen in the future . I know this sounds like crazy talk but I'm epistemologically rigours and that's basically the situation with death. 

Regarding being trapped in a box ...I'm trapped in the body and in this universe .Full stop. Nothing more . If I released myself out of this body and world like astral projection I will probably enter a ethereal realm less dense and gross than this physical material universe . So yes I will pop out of one box to another box .there is no end to it . But I feel like you are giving so much credit to the body .if you realize that you are not the body but you are pure consciousness you will also realize that freedom from all limits is your true nature .

[Sincerity]

9 hours ago, Someone here said:

I don't follow. You can only be trapped or prisoned in a finite limited place . Like you are basically trapped inside your body. When you die you will escape the body and become infinite or dissolve into infinity (probably hehe).

Since reality is infinite in all directions and dimensions you can't be trapped inside it because you can escape to infinity and beyond.  There is always more infinity to escape to . But escaping outside of infinity makes no sense because it is infinite and all-encompassing. 

You don't follow because you've never had an experience of awakening and seeing so clearly the totality of experience. You did not see Infinity. You never took psychedelics. For you it's just speculation and intellectualizing like "reality is infinite in all directions and dimensions and bla bla bla". Parroting others. That which you've been doing for the entirety of your time on this forum.

Just reminding you of this.

Edited Sunday at 05:29 PM by Sincerity

[Someone here]

@Sincerity love you too .

[Shawn Philips]

12 hours ago, Someone here said:

I don't follow. You can only be trapped or prisoned in a finite limited place . Like you are basically trapped inside your body. When you die you will escape the body and become infinite or dissolve into infinity (probably hehe).

Since reality is infinite in all directions and dimensions you can't be trapped inside it because you can escape to infinity and beyond.  There is always more infinity to escape to . But escaping outside of infinity makes no sense because it is infinite and all-encompassing. 

I also would say take break from psychedelics. Maybe meditate or do yoga .focus on mundane distractions. Etc

Much love .

The reincarnation cycle, samsara, is a prison and is not a limited place. 

[ExploringReality]

I have experienced this on LSD and it makes me anxious and scared because I call my brother to come close to soothe me so I can feel some comfort and believe that he's real, he told me he will go to the kitchen and come back in a moment. He was gone for 10 minutes but it was actually eternity. There is no time, only clocks moving. It's beautiful to realize this facet of awakening but can feel terrifying because you are beyond consensus reality. Read the Power Of Now by eckart tolle, it is basically this Awakening, 

Edited Sunday at 10:05 PM by ExploringReality

[Princess Arabia]

This is where claustrophobia comes from. One feels trapped in closed spaces. Real life mimicks Infinity. Claustrophobia also feels scary. I'm somewhat claustrophobic. Not as much as I used to be, but it's still there. Reading your post reminded me of how claustrophobia feels.

It used to attack in airplanes. Once they close the doors and you realize there's no escape. You're stuck on the plane till it stops and the doors open. I used to have to prepare myself, like not drinking coffee before a flight or bringing g something to read to distract. 

The feeling of being trapped is definitely terrifying. One can definitely feel trapped in infinity. It's the worst because there's nothing to escape to or from. This is exactly how the mind feels, that's why it carries on with its shenanigans. 

[Spiritual Warrior]

On 2/15/2025 at 6:41 PM, Breakingthewall said:

then you have to open yourself to that horror, open your heart and realize that you are not a prisoner, you are absolutely free because life is in you and it is infinite, bottomless, and it opens for you and the absolute light illuminates you and and you disintegrate into that because you are that

It sounds like you died 

[cobalto]

13 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Who exists? Existence exists? But if existence is everything with no border then it is also nothing simultaneously so it’s like it doesn’t exist, to exist means to stick out, if nothing sticks out then nothing exists. So how can you be trapped in infinity if infinity is nothing? Will you be conscious forever? What does it mean to be conscious ? It means there is a self that is conscious, but that self won’t feel like it exists forever it will eventually die. Are you consciousness? But if consciousness is nothing then it’s like nothing exists. Tricky.

You are trapped in eternity because you realized the unreality of the circumstance, but you are still there. That is, you realize that here and now is all that exists, but that here and now remains closed, the ego remains intact. It is a realization prior to the absolute emptiness of reality, which is the realization prior to total opening.

It's always like that for me, I explain it because for some people having the experience of being trapped in eternity or absolute emptiness can be so negative that they never try to delve deeper again, in fact the first time it happened to me it took me more than a year to try something similar because I was afraid, since the feeling is extremely negative.

[Sugarcoat]

59 minutes ago, cobalto said:

You are trapped in eternity because you realized the unreality of the circumstance, but you are still there. That is, you realize that here and now is all that exists, but that here and now remains closed, the ego remains intact. It is a realization prior to the absolute emptiness of reality, which is the realization prior to total opening.

It's always like that for me, I explain it because for some people having the experience of being trapped in eternity or absolute emptiness can be so negative that they never try to delve deeper again, in fact the first time it happened to me it took me more than a year to try something similar because I was afraid, since the feeling is extremely negative.

But do you still feel like there’s a “you” trapped in eternity?

Edited Monday at 07:56 AM by Sugarcoat