Elon in The Oval Room. A Study

[PurpleTree]

15 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What would need to happen would be the case with any administration.   I shouldn't have to state them.  You want to see a good economy and you want to see peace.  And you want to see the people have a say.   The first is already messed up.  We have peace.  And the people have a say.  

Well yes you have peace for now.

But he already threatened a few countries and allies like Canada, Panama, Mexico, Denmark/Greenland, EU, Ukraine and so on. 

His administration is supporting far right parties all over Europe and getting closer to Putin.

Maybe you would care if he threw Israel under the bus. But he likely won’t. 

Edited Wednesday at 11:56 PM by PurpleTree

[puporing]

Because while he's gutting other people's livelihoods with zero thought/planning, and whatever peanuts they are getting from "social programs", he has absolutely zero interest in giving up his own massive wealth in comparison, and really he wants to increase it to fund his Mars project and whatever else that he alone (and his friends) thinks is more important.

To someone like Elon Musk, funding his Mars project is far more important than paying for a poor person to get medical treatment. It's not even a question in his mind.

Notice this is some unelected rich guy prioritizing his own pet project(s) and/or hoarding wealth and power, that nobody else has a say in.

This is all besides the fact that he:

• Promotes eugenics ideology
• Completely blind to the danger Donald Trump poses to humanity

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There is simply no credibility whatsoever when someone with massive wealth says he wants to "save money" by gutting essential programs or other people's jobs. That will never add up in a sane person's mind. 

If he was to be believed by anyone, he would have to also give up his massive wealth (that he thinks he alone generated but is really generated by his entire companies as well by extension other supports he has received through taxpayers).

Edited yesterday at 12:11 AM by puporing

[Inliytened1]

19 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Well yes you have peace for now.

But he already threatened a few countries and allies like Canada, Panama, Mexico, Denmark/Greenland, EU, Ukraine and so on. 

His administration is supporting far right parties all over Europe and getting closer to Putin.

Maybe you would care if he threw Israel under the bus. But he likely won’t. 

I think Biden's passiveness was worse.  And passiveness can lead to negative consequences as well.  Just because Trump has a different style doesn't mean it's going to lead to dark paths.   Let's see what happens.  

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

I think Biden's passiveness was worse.  And passiveness can lead to negative consequences as well.  Just because Trump has a different style doesn't mean it's going to lead to dark paths.   Let's see what happens.  

Well to me cuddling up to Putin and throwing Ukraine under the bus.

for example basically extorting them for their rare eart minerals.

calling Zelensky a dictator (while cuddling with Putin)

saying Zelensky has a 4% approval rating. (While he’s almost at 60%) 

Spewing Russian propaganda.

etc.

While they were a US ally for the past few years and are fighting off a Russian invasion.

Is already almost as dark as it gets.

[Leo Gura]

No one voted for Musk.

The situation is completely sick.

Edited yesterday at 12:47 AM by Leo Gura

[Jayson G]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The image of those three in the Oval Office IS the corruption. Look no further.

This is like two demons hosting a news conference to announce a committee to search for corruption. Only a fool would take them seriously.

@Leo Gura Those 3?? one of them is a kid lol .. the 2 I understand .. but the kid even told trump to be quiet at one point (different video)

[Yimpa]

4 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

Those 3??

You forgot about the bald guy.

[Frylock]

8 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura Those 3?? one of them is a kid lol .. the 2 I understand .. but the kid even told trump to be quiet at one point (different video)

The kid is a prop(aganda) being used to make President Elon seem somewhat human. Sure, no fault on his own, but he's still a tool.

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura Those 3?? one of them is a kid lol .. the 2 I understand .. but the kid even told trump to be quiet at one point (different video)

It's not the kid's fault, but why is a child of an oligarch in the Oval Office being used as a prop for a photo op? Only due to the corrupt situation we are in. Musk is so cozy with the most powerful elected position in the world that he brings his children there like daycare.

It's so absurd that people wouldn't believe it if you made a Hollywood film of it.

It's like proudly taking a selfie with Satan and bringing your kid along. That's our situation now.

Edited yesterday at 04:13 AM by Leo Gura

[Davino]

9 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

I didn't vote for anyone but over half the country voted for these guys because they didn't like the current government.   

Oh, so now you didn't.

Yes, it's clear who America voted for and the rest of the world feels it. The most corrupt and ignorant are going to catch the justice system for corruption, grab your hats!

Edited yesterday at 08:56 AM by Davino

[Schizophonia]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not the kid's fault, but why is a child of an oligarch in the Oval Office being used as a prop for a photo op? Only due to the corrupt situation we are in. Musk is so cozy with the most powerful elected position in the world that he brings his children there like daycare.

It's so absurd that people wouldn't believe it if you made a Hollywood film of it.

It's like proudly taking a selfie with Satan and bringing your kid along. That's our situation now.

The president of my country brought black transsexual dancers into the presidential palace.

https://www.leparisien.fr/politique/macron-avec-des-danseurs-a-l-elysee-une-photo-qui-continue-a-faire-du-bruit-23-06-2018-7789650.php

It's nothing at all Elon who brings his kid ; It's anecdotal. 

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

The president of my country brought black transsexual dancers into the presidential palace.

https://www.leparisien.fr/politique/macron-avec-des-danseurs-a-l-elysee-une-photo-qui-continue-a-faire-du-bruit-23-06-2018-7789650.php

It's nothing at all Elon who brings his kid ; It's anecdotal. 

That's very different.

Black dancers are not the world's most powerful oligarchs.

[Jodistrict]

Elon Musk seems to be doing a much needed job of auditing the government.  Obama actually promised to do this when he was president.  Why didn’t he?  Since the democrats didn’t do it their way, they have forfeited the right to complain.    I strongly suspect that those computer hackers are using the latest AI tools to trace the flow of money, thus being able to document kickbacks and corruption.  If this is real, there will eventually be arrests and prosecutions.  Evidence will be submitted in the courts of law so that the public can see what is happening.  We need full transparency.

Here is a video of millions of USAID money that was used to teach degenerate Western art to students in Afghanistan.

https://x.com/i/status/1891689715369181578

[Girzo]

2 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

Elon Musk seems to be doing a much needed job of auditing the government.

What are you smoking man? Not the good stuff it seems  Randomly firing people is not doing an audit. The only thing he does audits of is his own Twitter account, ten times a day.

[OBEler]

 

Are we entering Idiocracy?

In my country this would not be possible..

[Jodistrict]

21 hours ago, Girzo said:

What are you smoking man? Not the good stuff it seems  Randomly firing people is not doing an audit. The only thing he does audits of is his own Twitter account, ten times a day.

No, the question is what is Grok 3 smoking?  Doesn't he have something to do with Elon Musk 

 

"As of February 21, 2025, there’s no definitive evidence that Elon Musk is directly firing government employees himself, randomly or otherwise. However, there’s a lot of buzz around his involvement in Donald Trump’s administration, particularly through the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), a non-governmental advisory group he co-leads with Vivek Ramaswamy. Let’s break this down based on what’s known.

Musk doesn’t have the legal authority to fire federal employees single-handedly—he’s not an elected official or a confirmed government officer. DOGE is an advisory body, not an official agency, meaning its role is to recommend cuts and restructuring, not to execute firings directly. Trump, as president, holds the executive power to initiate such actions, and Musk’s influence appears to be channeled through this partnership. Reports indicate that since Trump took office in January 2025, significant workforce reductions have occurred, with Musk playing a key advisory role.

Have firings happened? Yes. By mid-February 2025, thousands of federal workers have been terminated across agencies like the Department of Veterans Affairs, U.S. Forest Service, and Department of Energy. Reuters reported on February 13 that over 1,000 probationary employees at Veterans Affairs and 3,400 at the Forest Service were let go, with additional cuts at other agencies like the Department of Education and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. By February 14, the total number of firings exceeded 9,500, alongside 75,000 workers accepting buyouts to leave voluntarily. These actions align with Trump and Musk’s stated goal of slashing the federal workforce, which totals about 2.3 million civilians.

Were these firings random or logical? It’s murky. The process has targeted probationary employees—those in their first year or two with fewer legal protections—making them easier to dismiss under existing federal rules. Termination letters cited vague reasons like “not fit for continued employment” or “performance not adequate,” suggesting a broad sweep rather than individualized assessments. Musk and Ramaswamy have proposed cuts tied to eliminating regulations, arguing that fewer rules mean fewer staff are needed, but specific plans tying each firing to a regulation remain unclear.

Critics, including unions and some lawmakers, argue the approach lacks method. For instance, an accidental firing of 325 National Nuclear Security Administration workers—key to nuclear stockpile oversight—prompted a partial reversal, hinting at hasty execution. Posts on X and media like Vox have called the cuts “random,” pointing to a lack of transparent analysis. Conversely, Musk’s camp, including Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, likens DOGE’s work to a financial audit, implying a deliberate review, though details on criteria are scarce.

Legal challenges add complexity. A lawsuit from 14 states claims DOGE’s actions are unconstitutional, arguing Musk wields unchecked power without Congressional oversight. Federal judges have issued mixed rulings—some blocking DOGE’s access to sensitive systems, others allowing it—suggesting the process is still evolving.

So, is it true? Musk isn’t personally firing people in a vacuum, but he’s heavily influencing a rapid downsizing effort under Trump. Randomness versus logic depends on perspective: the focus on probationary workers and buyouts follows a procedural logic, but the lack of clear, public justification for specific cuts fuels the “random” perception. Without DOGE releasing a detailed playbook, it’s hard to say definitively—it’s a fast-moving, chaotic purge with some strategy but plenty of improvisation."

[Girzo]

@Jodistrict The AI slop you clearly haven't even read is concluding from it's skimming over the news that yes, this is some chaotic random shit and not an audit. Like you have no idea what leading a large governmental or for-profit entails and what an audit is. DOGE actions have nothing to do with an audit. Audit is not firing random people and shutting down governmental agencies left and right.

[Jodistrict]

16 minutes ago, Girzo said:

@Jodistrict The AI slop you clearly haven't even read is concluding from it's skimming over the news that yes, this is some chaotic random shit and not an audit. Like you have no idea what leading a large governmental or for-profit entails and what an audit is. DOGE actions have nothing to do with an audit. Audit is not firing random people and shutting down governmental agencies left and right.

It's being called an "audit" but includes much more, such as downsizing and reorganizing of the government.   However, Trump openly campaigned on what he is doing now and the public accepted it.  Since it is such a huge project in a short period of time, there are going to be mistakes.  But, the alternative is that nothing is done, which has been the decision up to now.  The people who are complaining just don't want the status quo to change.

Edited 56 minutes ago by Jodistrict

[PurpleTree]

15 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

It's being called an "audit" but includes much more, such as downsizing and reorganizing of the government.   However, Trump openly campaigned on what he is doing now and the public accepted it.  Since it is such a huge project in a short period of time, there are going to be mistakes.  But, the alternative is that nothing is done, which has been the decision up to now.  The people who are complaining just don't want the status quo to change.

Are you MAGA? Do you wear that hat and stuff?

[Jodistrict]

27 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Are you MAGA? Do you wear that hat and stuff?

No, I actually didn't vote for Trump.    But, I have frequently made it known that I support RFK and his efforts to clean up the environment, health care, and get Big Pharma under control.    Puting labels on people isn't a fair way to argue a point.