I Can't Date a Trump Supporter

[MsNobody]

Thank you everyone for the responses, it really helped me 

[Letho]

@MsNobody this isn't obviously just about dating aye, you’re asking about trust in a polarized world to me. When politics or any ideological finger print on our vision of reality becomes a moral shorthand, we stop seeing people and start seeing symbols in the same way people justify war, in this case your exclusion is analogous to the inclusion of what to aim at from a firing squad. The real challenge isn’t just finding someone who agrees with you, but learning to filter for the values that actually matter, keeping things centred and in alignment with your core self hun rather than as a reaction to the world. 

Thus, kindly, just a few considerations:

• Are you rejecting individuals, or rejecting what they represent in your mind?
• Do you want alignment (same views) or intellectual friction (someone who challenges you in a way that sharpens you)?
• If you keep seeing only "toxic masculinity" vs. "soy boys," are you looking in the right places?

Instead of filtering by labels, try filtering by actual traits. emotional depth, self-awareness, integrity. That way, you stay true to your values without closing doors on people who might surprise you.

So maybe the real question isn’t, “Should I date a Trump supporter?” but rather “How do I filter for the deepest kind of compatibility, beyond just political labels?”

Thoughts? Would love to hear how others navigate this; can turn this into a discussion that others can benefit more from through deeper introspection. 

Edited Sunday at 03:16 AM by Letho

[Basman]

The kind of strong masculine men that you find attractive and that make you feel safe to have a child are necessarily going to err towards being conservative because you can't have too many fluffy liberal ideals as a man if you are survival and success oriented. Voting for Trump as a masculine guy is most likely just a vibe check based on Trump's image as a strong leader within the context of a high inflation economy.

If a man holds irreconcilable values than that is going to be problem but just voting Trump is not enough evidence of that alone in my opinion. You'll have to sort the wheat from the chaff as usual. I think a relatively more conservative boyfriend can potentially be healthy if its grounded and tolerant.

I hope I don't come off as too harsh in my responses.

[Joshe]

On 2/13/2025 at 8:55 AM, MsNobody said:

I want to know if Im being too extremist or radical?

You're right that support for Trump is a solid indicator of low intelligence, and if you don't want a man of low intelligence, then you are being practical, not radical. I've parted ways with friends due to their idiocy and I felt all sorts of confusion and moral dilemmas about it, but life is too short and precious to settle for and accept that degree of foolishness in your life. I'd choose pure solitude over truth deniers, hateful, and harmful people. I guess it depends on how hard up you are for some company. 

[Jirh]

What you're basically asking about is mainly modern day identity, who you should be in this modern world. You can go post-modern and bypass this problem altogether, or you can stick to modernism and unapologetically choose any way of being. It doesn't really matter in any case, because life doesn't generally mainly depend on political opinions.

Edited Sunday at 04:32 PM by Jirh

[Ero]

I’m with you. That’s such a red flag for cognitive development, let alone being a spit to the face of what I represent as an immigrant.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

On 2/13/2025 at 8:55 AM, MsNobody said:

Im generalizing but it seems to be two kinds of men out there right now, the toxic masculine Trump Supporter or the soy boy beta man too trapped in spirituality and no grounding in reality. 

SDi ORANGE vs GREEN men in a nutshell. 

[Alex4]

The more time passes, the more grotesque Trump and his supporters seem to me. I don't know if it's me maturing or if the far right is degenerating more and more.

And I will tell you more, the older I get, the more I realize how important it is to avoid associating with that kind of people. But I have to admit that the left, although to a lesser extent, also has its own legions of fanatics driven by emotions.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Dating apps such as Hinge and Bumble allow users to list whether or not they're a Conservative or Liberal, allowing you to weed out Trump supporters, if a dating app is the approach you choose to take. Women tend to have a much easier time on this apps, so it should work.

But in all do seriousness, if you're a serious truth seeker who is committed to seeking the truth, otherwise why else would you be into Actualized.org and spirituality, then don't date; Trump supporters, those who identify with being part of an organized religion, those on the far right, etc...

These types of people have a deeply corrupted and lazy epistemology and don't care about the truth. No one who supports Trump cares about reading books about politics and studying it seriously to find truths. Trump supporters don't care about the truth, period. They don't care about epistemology, metaphysics, spirituality, raising one's consciousness, nothing. 

And people vote for whichever candidate reflects their values. So someone who supports Trump is going to have a more nationalistic, traditional, and materialistic outlook on life, and if you care deeply about Actualized.org, such a person may be incompatible with you. A gross materialistic view on life, these are the Patrick Bateman's of the world. Not highly conscious people. 

[Alex_R]

Just move to nyc, florida is not for you, its great if you are male and are into parties, but not for you, just move to nyc

[Raze]

9 minutes ago, Alex_R said:

Just move to nyc, florida is not for you, its great if you are male and are into parties, but not for you, just move to nyc

That’s ridiculous. There are plenty of non-trump supporting men in Florida. And plenty of trump supporting men in nyc.

[eos_nyxia]

On 2025-02-17 at 9:58 AM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Dating apps such as Hinge and Bumble allow users to list whether or not they're a Conservative or Liberal, allowing you to weed out Trump supporters, if a dating app is the approach you choose to take. Women tend to have a much easier time on this apps, so it should work.

Just anecdotally (and not from personal experience or the experience of people I know), quite a few men either hide their conservative political status or list themselves as "moderate" when they are not. Sort of like how people (allegedly) hide the fact that they have children and then try to get with childfree people (no children, never want them).

I assume it's a matter of trying to nab people via deception and the "sunk cost" fallacy.

[Paradoxed]

It's not extreme or radical. It's hard to date someone you disagree with politically. Your job is not to convert your partner. If they cannot meet your level of understanding or if they don't live in the same reality as you then it might not work. It all depends on how much you value being politically aligned with your partner.. some people simply do not have that as part of their relationship criteria.

[Paradoxed]

On 2/13/2025 at 9:49 AM, Elliott said:

I myself wouldn't even date someone who's family are Trump supporters.

That's a bit silly.

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, Paradoxed said:

That's a bit silly.

Silly beans 

[Ves]

It's surprising that you find the men around you fall into this fairly strict dichotomy. I'm a guy, so I don't pay attention to these things as much, but it seems like most of the guys who have been around me in my life were fairly normal. I would even say that beta soyboys who are into spirituality were much rarer than Trump supporters.

[The Crocodile]

Lol no, don't fuck tr*mp supporters unless you are peggin them.

[Frylock]

Trump supporters are usually either uneducated, mentally unstable, or have some really flawed personality defects. No one would blame you from staying away from humanity's cesspool.

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, Paradoxed said:

That's a bit silly.

Not to me. I have no problem if they voted for him, even the girl, but not a MAGA.

Edited yesterday at 02:36 AM by Elliott

[Rafael Thundercat]

Now you can send the link of Leaving MAGA to them and hope they scape cult mentality

https://leavingmaga.org/