Met A Famous Only Fans Girl

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Only a low conscious and psychologically damaged person would ever sell themselves for sex.

This is not at the destructive level of prostitution, but OnlyFans girls are not the sharpest tool in the box, as in the end its a horrible career path which with tarnish their reputations and haunt them for the rest of their lives.

[Vynce]

8 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Only a low conscious and psychologically damaged person would ever sell themselves for sex.

This is not at the destructive level of prostitution, but OnlyFans girls are not the sharpest tool in the box, as in the end its a horrible career path which with tarnish their reputations and haunt them for the rest of their lives.

You cannot imagine how petty this would sound in the ears of a model. I know a hand full of OF creators and they'd laugh about reputation and optimal career choices. 

But in most cases they hate to interact with their clients. They hate to do the job in general. But they like the money, and most importantly they can't imagine any good alternatives. 

Most of the models have good reasons to do what they do, even if they hate it.

[Flint]

On 14/2/2025 at 10:35 PM, Emerald said:

And I can only imagine that someone who's a popular OnlyFans model (or sex worker in general) would probably feel very negatively towards the audience... because the audience is being objectifying, and she probably experiences objectification pretty often just being a young attractive woman.

So, it's not surprising to me that OF models would feel some contempt towards her patrons as they're only valuing her as a source of sexual gratification.

I'm glad you touched on this topic - because if someone (regardless of gender) produces onlyfans content isn't that person as such objectifying themselves ? If I have a display of content where I'm a sexual object to be virtually consummed by fans, am I not also seeing myself as a souce of sexual gratification ?

If you're getting cat called on the street, that's the fault of the one doing it and outdated society standards. But if you put your titties on the internet can you really complain that people jerk off to them without caring about who you are as a person ?

In a similar way I imagine those of creators view their "fans" as walking money bags because again there is no connection and there is nothing personal.

Sex workers in real life at least would be less damaging for both parties as you are with a real person in front of you, so you have at least a modicum of connection.

What I generally oppose in the current society is the lack of connection and the lack of deep relationships. We cannot be a healthy society if we only interact on a superficial object to object level and objectify each others non-stop.

In essence onlyfans promotes the objectification of women/people at a large scale and I am very much against that. We need to evolve from object to object value exchanges into genuine relationships and promote the later, not the former.

I saw a random reel the other day of someone coming close to a hot girl in a festival and her first reaction was "follow me on instagram". Seriously ? Until you've proven enough social value I'm just going to assume you're a dumb follower by default ? Is that how we want to interact as humans ? Sigh.

Edited Sunday at 09:26 AM by Flint

[Consept]

Heres a question or thought experiment for my fellow dudes - Lets say its some parallel universe and theres a market for you to do Only Fans and make 5x or even more than you make now, for putting up sexy pictures and videos, would you do it? Really think about it, lets say youre on 20k and you can get 100k doing this content, what would you do? Also do you think a lot of guys would do it?

[Butters]

This thread is a good example immaturity and not taking any personal responsibility. 

[Princess Arabia]

On 2/15/2025 at 9:03 AM, sholomar said:

These men are simping and throwing money at internet stars, nobody is putting a gun to their head forcing them to do it. There is a market for this content and these women are filling a demand. There's no good or bad about it, it's just human nature.   Men often gamble on sports and lose a lot of money doing it also. Humans do all sorts of things where the math and science don't work out in their favor out of addictive animalistic cravings and desires.  Gambling is a big one... unless you're a card counter or extremely good at sports knowledge, gambling statistically the house will always win, and if you win too much they'll just throw you out of the casino. If you win too much you have to pay taxes on it.  Those things don't get built by people winning.  Gambling is a terrible waste of money. Throwing money at online women thinking you have a shot at a relationship if you simp hard enough is an incredible waste of money also. It won't stop people from doing it.

Do we moral judge them and ban everything we think is bad for them? That's ultimately the societal/cultural question. Some nations do, some don't. Ones that do, often you have black markets anyways.  Best to accept human nature and let people learn from their mistakes, without rewarding their mistakes with handouts when they do dumb things.

This is where I'm clueless. Why are they looking for relationships with these women on one hand and bashing them with the other. You've made some strong points and it utterly shocks me as to why do we expect these women to personally care about the men they're entertaining beyond what's humanely expected. This is where i have a sticky issue. The rest of the world and it's businesses are pretty much cut throat and competing for consumers but in this field they are expected to care and not do it because grown men are being hurt and taken advantage of. Men who are well aware that it's a business. How? They're spending money to engage. That's how. The arguments against this business just doesn't add up and seems to be coming from a place of personal biases and disdain for these women based on the sole fact they do this for a living and no other reason. 

[Princess Arabia]

12 hours ago, Flint said:

I'm glad you touched on this topic - because if someone (regardless of gender) produces onlyfans content isn't that person as such objectifying themselves ? If I have a display of content where I'm a sexual object to be virtually consummed by fans, am I not also seeing myself as a souce of sexual gratification ?

If you're getting cat called on the street, that's the fault of the one doing it and outdated society standards. But if you put your titties on the internet can you really complain that people jerk off to them without caring about who you are as a person ?

In a similar way I imagine those of creators view their "fans" as walking money bags because again there is no connection and there is nothing personal.

Sex workers in real life at least would be less damaging for both parties as you are with a real person in front of you, so you have at least a modicum of connection.

What I generally oppose in the current society is the lack of connection and the lack of deep relationships. We cannot be a healthy society if we only interact on a superficial object to object level and objectify each others non-stop.

In essence onlyfans promotes the objectification of women/people at a large scale and I am very much against that. We need to evolve from object to object value exchanges into genuine relationships and promote the later, not the former.

I saw a random reel the other day of someone coming close to a hot girl in a festival and her first reaction was "follow me on instagram". Seriously ? Until you've proven enough social value I'm just going to assume you're a dumb follower by default ? Is that how we want to interact as humans ? Sigh.

Yes, well said. Just so you know, this is exactly how I felt for 2 to 3 yrs on this forum when pretty much most of the males here and what they've spoken about when it comes to women is all about getting laid. Pretty much nothing else except for a few failed relationships here and there. A three part series was done about it, just about every cold approach advice leans towards getting laid and just about every advice given is about how to get laid. Nothing about caring for the female, nothing about her personality and what they're looking for in a good woman. Nothing about loving women, admiring feminine beauty, nothing about how attracted they are to a compassionate, loving, well-mannered, nurturing kind, respectful female but mostly about body counts, what number on a scale of 1-10 she is and if she's hot or not. Someone even had to make a thread about how not to objectify women. 

So,.your comment here doesn't have to go as far as the streets or OF but can stop right here on this forum, in this section to see how men objectify women all the time. It's not noticeable because it's so normal, and is an  acceptable norm. All one has to do is go through the threads and.comments, so I don't need to prove what I'm saying here. One was just recent saying how he sees women as objects. The comments weren't chastising or demeaning only trying to coach him how not to do that. No one cursed at him,.only tried to not make him feel bad about it. Àll one has to do is go through the dating section of the forum to see the constant objectification of women. No need to reference OF or porn to see this. 

This is not a complaint, btw, just trying to point out how men objectify women all.the time and as soon as a female speaks about it, she gets ostracized and told to be quiet..

[Yimpa]

I sell free hugs… come to me! 

Edited Sunday at 09:52 PM by Yimpa

[Emerald]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, well said. Just so you know, this is exactly how I felt for 2 to 3 yrs on this forum when pretty much most of the males here and what they've spoken about when it comes to women is all about getting laid. Pretty much nothing else except for a few failed relationships here and there. A three part series was done about it, just about every cold approach advice leans towards getting laid and just about every advice given is about how to get laid. Nothing about caring for the female, nothing about her personality and what they're looking for in a good woman. Nothing about loving women, admiring feminine beauty, nothing about how attracted they are to a compassionate, loving, well-mannered, nurturing kind, respectful female but mostly about body counts, what number on a scale of 1-10 she is and if she's hot or not. Someone even had to make a thread about how not to objectify women. 

So,.your comment here doesn't have to go as far as the streets or OF but can stop right here on this forum, in this section to see how men objectify women all the time. It's not noticeable because it's so normal, and is an  acceptable norm. All one has to do is go through the threads and.comments, so I don't need to prove what I'm saying here. One was just recent saying how he sees women as objects. The comments weren't chastising or demeaning only trying to coach him how not to do that. No one cursed at him,.only tried to not make him feel bad about it. Àll one has to do is go through the dating section of the forum to see the constant objectification of women. No need to reference OF or porn to see this. 

This is not a complaint, btw, just trying to point out how men objectify women all.the time and as soon as a female speaks about it, she gets ostracized and told to be quiet..

I honestly think the OP and many of the guys on this thread are projecting their own (unconscious and semi-unconscious) tendencies towards sexual objectification and exploitative value extraction onto the OF models.

And that's why it touches such a deeply negative chord for them that feels disturbing to them... and why their criticism towards these models seems so biting and unnecessarily personal.

They just see their own objectifying tendencies mirrored back to them in their projection onto these women... with an extreme aversion to being on the chopping block of their own tendencies towards objectification and transactional value extraction.

And they judge the OF models for their own disowned tendencies, whilst succumbing to a victim's mentality narrative where they see themselves as the exploited ones.

Edit... Here's a song about this phenomenon...

 

Edited Monday at 02:35 AM by Emerald

[Emerald]

16 hours ago, Flint said:

I'm glad you touched on this topic - because if someone (regardless of gender) produces onlyfans content isn't that person as such objectifying themselves ? If I have a display of content where I'm a sexual object to be virtually consummed by fans, am I not also seeing myself as a souce of sexual gratification ?

If you're getting cat called on the street, that's the fault of the one doing it and outdated society standards. But if you put your titties on the internet can you really complain that people jerk off to them without caring about who you are as a person ?

In a similar way I imagine those of creators view their "fans" as walking money bags because again there is no connection and there is nothing personal.

Sex workers in real life at least would be less damaging for both parties as you are with a real person in front of you, so you have at least a modicum of connection.

What I generally oppose in the current society is the lack of connection and the lack of deep relationships. We cannot be a healthy society if we only interact on a superficial object to object level and objectify each others non-stop.

In essence onlyfans promotes the objectification of women/people at a large scale and I am very much against that. We need to evolve from object to object value exchanges into genuine relationships and promote the later, not the former.

I saw a random reel the other day of someone coming close to a hot girl in a festival and her first reaction was "follow me on instagram". Seriously ? Until you've proven enough social value I'm just going to assume you're a dumb follower by default ? Is that how we want to interact as humans ? Sigh.

Someone who does OF is sexually objectifying themselves in exchange for money. That is part of the job description.

But I have no judgments towards anyone who chooses that because financial circumstances are difficult. There will always be a demand for sex and sexual content, and it makes sense why so many people turn to it.

And I certainly don't blame OF models or any other kind of sex worker for the disconnection and transactional devolution of relationships in society. That comes from other sources that are much deeper seated.

But perhaps we could say that the tendency to seek out a sex worker (including OF models) could be symptomatic of a deeper feeling of loneliness and disconnection.

But it would be a mistake to mischaracterize a single symptom as the root cause. That could lead to scapegoating sex workers, when those issues are not their fault.

With all that said, I would imagine that most people who work in the sex industry probably have (at least) mixed feelings about the work. And the average person working in the sex industry probably feels quite negatively about it because you're getting to see a side of people where a lot of negative/predatory/objectifying tendencies arise from.

Like I said, when I was in my early 20s and I was proximal to the beauty standard, I would get frequently approached, harassed, and objectified.

It was like everyone and their father was always trying to extract sexual value from me... via pleasure or status.

And of course, 80%+ of that attention was coming from exploitative people who just saw me as a means to their own ends.

And it really jaded me during that time because I was on the receiving end of those kinds of interactions really often, as I was often in the pedestrian area near my college.

And having had those experiences, I can only imagine that 10x that amount of contempt and negative feeling I felt back then would be stirred up in a person who makes money through being seen as a sex object.

While they may consciously decide to do it and consciously want to do it, it doesn't mean that all of themselves is on board with being objectified that way.

And part of them may feel quite resentful for being oriented to as a sexual object.

So, I'm sure it could exacerbate feelings of resent and contempt towards their patrons.

[CARDOZZO]

That's why being offline is a luxury.

Stop focusing on what you don't want to see in the world.

[Raze]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Nothing about caring for the female, nothing about her personality and what they're looking for in a good woman. Nothing about loving women, admiring feminine beauty, nothing about how attracted they are to a compassionate, loving, well-mannered, nurturing kind, respectful female

Because that goes without saying, they can spend all day talking about how they admire femininity and it won’t make them any closer to attracting a woman. 

[Consept]

6 hours ago, Emerald said:

But I have no judgments towards anyone who chooses that because financial circumstances are difficult. There will always be a demand for sex and sexual content, and it makes sense why so many people turn to it.

I think there is almost a jealousy amongst men because in essence women have such an abundance of sexual options that they can even sell the idea of you being with them, whereas a lot of men might have trouble attracting even one woman. So its like the pain of wanting something so bad and not being able to have it or just having it these very transactional ways. On the flip women might have trouble getting a good man who actually loves them for them and not their physical assets. Ultimately both sides do want love but i think a lot of the time this dynamic prevents it from happening, its difficult cos if you think about it biologically this is what is supposed to happen, men are supposed to be horny bastards and try impregnate as many women as possible and women are supposed to only select the best men with the best genetics they can, what weve done as a society is find a way where men can have the feeling of having sex with many women without actually doing it, through porn. Women in this case have found a way to monetise it, actually it was always monetised just more by men previously. Women can also have access to higher value men through social media or dating apps. I wonder if this is just the logical conclusion to techno-capitalisms affect on dating

[Dauntment]

The men are posting (exactly as expected)

The women are posting & replying (exactly as expected)

Mechanics in real-time.....This is amazing 🙂 

eats Popcorn

Perspective! (Not the Whole) 😃

[Princess Arabia]

23 minutes ago, Dauntment said:

The men are posting (exactly as expected)

The women are posting & replying (exactly as expected)

Mechanics in real-time.....This is amazing 🙂 

eats Popcorn

Perspective! (Not the Whole) 😃

Lol. Best comment in this whole thread. Exactly, we all see the world through our own lens. No one's right, no one's wrong, just different perspectives. Would you like butter with that.

[Emerald]

7 hours ago, Consept said:

I think there is almost a jealousy amongst men because in essence women have such an abundance of sexual options that they can even sell the idea of you being with them, whereas a lot of men might have trouble attracting even one woman. So its like the pain of wanting something so bad and not being able to have it or just having it these very transactional ways. On the flip women might have trouble getting a good man who actually loves them for them and not their physical assets. Ultimately both sides do want love but i think a lot of the time this dynamic prevents it from happening, its difficult cos if you think about it biologically this is what is supposed to happen, men are supposed to be horny bastards and try impregnate as many women as possible and women are supposed to only select the best men with the best genetics they can, what weve done as a society is find a way where men can have the feeling of having sex with many women without actually doing it, through porn. Women in this case have found a way to monetise it, actually it was always monetised just more by men previously. Women can also have access to higher value men through social media or dating apps. I wonder if this is just the logical conclusion to techno-capitalisms affect on dating

There is probably that jealousy too. 

I honestly wish that men could experience a reality where they're constantly being sexually objectified from the age of 13 onward with all sorts of women of all ages trying to get with them every time they went into public from age 13 to early 30s.

It's a really horrifying experience, tbh. And I don't think men can get a clear sense of what that's like. It's something you have to experience first-hand to empathize with, I think.

It's like being a drug and a significant portion of the population are out-and-proud desperate junkies that want to use you for their next fix. 

So when women are upset at being objectified, it probably feels like a brag from the male perspective.

It's like if a person who never knew when their next meal was going to be was jealous of someone who was constantly being tied down and force-fed a bunch of food they don't want to eat. (and food represents sexual attention in this metaphor)

[AION]

13 minutes ago, Emerald said:

There is probably that jealousy too. 

I honestly wish that men could experience a reality where they're constantly being sexually objectified from the age of 13 onward with all sorts of women of all ages trying to get with them every time they went into public from age 13 to early 30s.

It's a really horrifying experience, tbh. And I don't think men can get a clear sense of what that's like. It's something you have to experience first-hand to empathize with, I think.

It's like being a drug and a significant portion of the population are out-and-proud desperate junkies that want to use you for their next fix. 

So when women are upset at being objectified, it probably feels like a brag from the male perspective.

It's like if a person who never knew when their next meal was going to be was jealous of someone who was constantly being tied down and force-fed a bunch of food they don't want to eat. (and food represents sexual attention in this metaphor)

Haha. I think most guys wouldn’t mind considering most guys consume porn on a daily basis so instead of lusting to a LCD screen they would be living that life. 

Guys and girls experience sex in a different way. The masculine enters to feminine so I can imagine that if there are masculine energies who want to penetrate your aura 24/7 it can be annoying. 
 

Most guys are like in a desert lusting for a drop of water. Their last concern is drowning in some double D’s. 

[Princess Arabia]

7 hours ago, Consept said:

I think there is almost a jealousy amongst men because in essence women have such an abundance of sexual options that they can even sell the idea of you being with them, whereas a lot of men might have trouble attracting even one woman. So its like the pain of wanting something so bad and not being able to have it or just having it these very transactional ways. On the flip women might have trouble getting a good man who actually loves them for them and not their physical assets. Ultimately both sides do want love but i think a lot of the time this dynamic prevents it from happening, its difficult cos if you think about it biologically this is what is supposed to happen, men are supposed to be horny bastards and try impregnate as many women as possible and women are supposed to only select the best men with the best genetics they can, what weve done as a society is find a way where men can have the feeling of having sex with many women without actually doing it, through porn. Women in this case have found a way to monetise it, actually it was always monetised just more by men previously. Women can also have access to higher value men through social media or dating apps. I wonder if this is just the logical conclusion to techno-capitalisms affect on dating

I'm on my phone so I can't quote but I'm responding to your first sentence.

It's funny you say that because I used to (awhile back, not now) feel a bit jealous and envious of men. They got to choose their women, get to do the approaching, get to propose, get to cum pretty much at all times while women struggle in this arena, get to do, say and act however they wanted while we had to be lady-like and were judged by how we showed up. How men could cheat and.it was ok while women were blacklisted for it. I mean the list goes on. I was in my 20's then but the pressure of being female weighed very strongly on me. I felt I had to be a certain way while men could just be whatever.

As far as having sexual abundance, that never entered my mind because I never felt like just having sex, it was always with whom and the abundance wasn't there because the "with whom" I wanted to have it with, wasn't abundant. This is the biggest mistake men make with this rhetoric, women don't see sexual abundance, we see a lack of sexual choices. A lack of men we truly want to and would enjoy sex with. We're not physical like men are, so we're not drooling over our options we're seeing a lack of being sexually excited. So to say, men are jealous over women's sexual abundance is just utter ignorance on men's part because of how they see women but are not realizing how women see sex on a whole.

[gettoefl]

22 hours ago, Consept said:

Heres a question or thought experiment for my fellow dudes - Lets say its some parallel universe and theres a market for you to do Only Fans and make 5x or even more than you make now, for putting up sexy pictures and videos, would you do it? Really think about it, lets say youre on 20k and you can get 100k doing this content, what would you do? Also do you think a lot of guys would do it?

Men can be whores and be loud and proud gay for pay and straight for their children make notches on their belts for the world to admire and even become president. Women don't fare as fairly in love and war.

[something_else]

13 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I honestly wish that men could experience a reality where they're constantly being sexually objectified from the age of 13 onward with all sorts of women of all ages trying to get with them every time they went into public from age 13 to early 30s.

I think a lot of men would enjoy this, not hate it. But we are safe to enjoy it because we don't have to fear for our safety when random women show interest.

My issue with OF is more to do with the scam side of it. Like where you have an organisation running an OF account for a girl with managers that will message men pretending to be the women to try and lead them on and extract more money from them.

If you're just an independent OF creator then that's your hustle and you do you. I'll never pay for it but you're not really harming anyone. It's when it gets to the point that you're misleading, lying or manipulating beyond a certain line that I think it becomes a problem. Kind of equivalent to a man lying about his profession, income, or coming up with random lies to get a woman to sleep with him.