What is a good anchor on 5 Meo.

[OBEler]

When I am in stress during a 5 Meo DMT trip what can I rely on.  I get sometimes the fear that I loose my awareness. What stays always, also during a breakthrough? Will you also loose the connection to your breath?

 

[Unlimited]

I didn't have profound breakthroughs with 5-MeO-DMT yet but I know from other psychedelics that at some point acceptance is the only option, everything else will prevent you from reaching deeper levels.

[OBEler]

@Unlimited yeah but it is sometimes not in your willpower to accept. You cannot lie to yourself.

It's like when you say you need to love a stranger. I cannot force that.

[Nemo28]

When everything has gone to hell, surrender to the Father as Christ did. Would be good idea to hold cross or some holly item near you to ground you to the light side. You could also pray  "Our Father". 

[shree]

8 minutes ago, Nemo28 said:

When everything has gone to hell, surrender to the Father as Christ did. Would be good idea to hold cross or some holly item near you to ground you to the light side. You could also pray  "Our Father". 

During my 5-MeO-DMT trips, I usually turn the cross upside down.

One time, I saw a cat walking on the ceiling.

The best part? I don’t even have a cat.

[Nemo28]

5 minutes ago, shree said:

During my 5-MeO-DMT trips, I usually turn the cross upside down.

One time, I saw a cat walking on the ceiling.

The best part? I don’t even have a cat.

shit, that must be intense! 

Whatever works for you, just trying to help ^^

[Unlimited]

4 hours ago, OBEler said:

@Unlimited yeah but it is sometimes not in your willpower to accept. You cannot lie to yourself.

It's like when you say you need to love a stranger. I cannot force that.

But then what you are more asking is how to stop a bad trip.
Because the anchor will limit you to a certain extend.
It won't help you overcome the fear and is more of a quick solution.

5 hours ago, OBEler said:

Will you also loose the connection to your breath?

Most of the time the fear of stopping to breath prevented me from having a breakthrough with it.
So I think the only way to overcome this is to accept that I might stop breathing.
Of course that is not easy and that's why I'm working with other psychedelics for now.

In that sense I wouldn't know how someone could have a breakthrough with 5-MeO-DMT while knowing that he is still alive and breathing.

[integration journey]

Trust that you are awareness itself. 

just let go is the best advice I ever got. 

[OBEler]

@integration journey wI'll the observer or  that awareness stay? I could focus on that as my anchor.

[Aaron p]

I could give you the contact details of my good friend and trip sitter, Molly, she's great

Edited Sunday at 08:03 PM by Aaron p

[integration journey]

Just now, OBEler said:

@integration journey wI'll the observer or  that awareness stay? I could focus on that as my anchor.

Yes. Your awareness will never go away. It will just expand. 

just let go of any pre conceived ideas about what should happen and trust that god or the universe or higher consciousness will meet you once you let go. 
 

it can be difficult to the ego to let go but it’s worth it. Let your awareness be the anchor. 

[OBEler]

@Aaron p that sounds good,please give me her contact.

@integration journey oh finally an anchor although if awareness expans then this is also not stable. 

[Aaron p]

15 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Aaron p that sounds good,please give me her contact.

@integration journey oh finally an anchor although if awareness expans then this is also not stable. 

My friend Molly isn't cheap, but you have to crush her up before you take her

[OBEler]

@Aaron p what you mean by that 

[Davino]

8 hours ago, OBEler said:

What stays always, also during a breakthrough?

Consciousness

8 hours ago, OBEler said:

I loose my awareness

What do you mean?

[Unlimited]

2 hours ago, OBEler said:

@integration journey oh finally an anchor although if awareness expans then this is also not stable. 

How should having awareness as an anchor help you overcome the fear of losing your awareness?

[OBEler]

@Davino I have a fear on 5 Meo that my awareness will be gone in any second and that I am not existing. Like total blackout. No awareness, no observer. Total annihilation.

[OBEler]

@Unlimited if it's guaranteed that awareness always exists then I can trust on that and use it as my anchor. It's the only thing I then will not loose on a breakthrough.

[josemar]

Needing anchors is an ego thing, it means the ego is still active.

Best suggestion is to lie down in a symmetrical position (any attempt to break symmetry is the ego trying to regain control) and be ready to die. 

[Unlimited]

35 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Unlimited if it's guaranteed that awareness always exists then I can trust on that and use it as my anchor. It's the only thing I then will not loose on a breakthrough.

Not sure how much it would actually help in a situation where you a very afraid but would be interested to hear a report from you about that.