I love manipulating other people

[Natasha Tori Maru]

12 hours ago, gettoefl said:

Everyone here is too triggered.

I coined what op talks about as femipulating.

Only give others what they are ready for.

If you let me down, you are dead to me.

I will look after me and will happily turn off your life support the moment I need to.

Everyone should contemplate the darker side a bit more instead of fairies and rainbows.

You are arrogant to think that others have not contemplated this, and come to the conclusion karma is real.

You speak as if you have very little life experience.

I can see why you would call manipulation 'femipulating'

Contemplate this:

Men have suppressed women for eons with brute power.

Women have therefor learned to manipulate subtly, as they were subjugated by men's overt power. They had no power to counter men, so they learned other techniques.

So men created this behavior in women.

Yet you resent women for it.

This is an example of a karmic cycle you seem to be ignorant to.

 

 

Edited February 9 by Natasha Tori Maru

[integral]

so someone figured out how to get rich?

[Hojo]

@Aaron p Its not only needed but God and reality demand it for your survival. But there are extremes and saying I like doing it and I do it on purpose to hurt people and make myself feel good is what the devil is all about.

 

Edited February 9 by Hojo

[Yimpa]

On 2/8/2025 at 8:41 PM, integral said:

so someone figured out how to get rich?

Rich in falsehood, yes.

[Someone here]

I think the question is how does one overcome the evil within himself/herself? 

How to become pure like childrens ?

Anyone have an answer to this question? 

Because as much as people are attacking OP for his openness..they too have perverted tendencies but they suppress it in their subconscious. 

[Paradoxed]

6 hours ago, Someone here said:

How to become pure like childrens ?

Children manipulate each other all the time.

[Loveeee]

The power of Christ compels you

[Someone here]

12 hours ago, Paradoxed said:

Children manipulate each other all the time.

I'm an uncle.  My sister's son is like an angel.  He is 4 years old . He is clear and innocent and doesn't have any evil or egoic tendencies. 

[Butters]

I didn't check reactions until now cuz I was embarrassed lol. 

Yeah obviously this was a fleeting thought I felt like expressing on the forums to see what kind of reactions it would get, and they are quite interesting. But I did feel like this when I posted it. 

If I was a manipulating maniac I wouldn't be this candid. I thought that would be self explanatory. 

I think I am less manipulative than most people which is why I rarely create new relationships or engagements with people, even though I easily could. I think last week I was just on the phone more often than usual. 

Lastly, I think I am easily influenced by YouTubers, and I was watching these types of dropshippers. This week I've found a much more legitimate business teacher and my whole mindset is more authentic around the topic now. It's very rare to find SD stage yellow business teachers who teach everything for free with little to no financial interest. 

Edited Friday at 12:25 PM by Butters

[Vibes]

33 minutes ago, Butters said:

This week I've found a much more legitimate business teacher and my whole mindset is more authentic around the topic now. It's very rare to find SD stage yellow business teachers who teach everything for free with little to no financial interest. 

Could you share with us?

[Butters]

1 minute ago, Vibes said:

Could you share with us?

 

 

[Vibes]

Thanks!

[Vibes]

I watched 2 minutes of the video and I already know he isn't yellow. He's orange that learned that being a little more into the compassionate side will bring him better results. I recognize every manipulation trick these online bullshitters throw at me.

But his stuff could have some value practically, I'd have to watch more.

Edited Friday at 01:16 PM by Vibes

[Butters]

43 minutes ago, Vibes said:

I recognize every manipulation trick these online bullshitters throw at me.

That's your bias. I literally linked a 20 HR long in debt business course on YouTube. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

In the end the real thing in cause here is that when butters say he love to manipulate it that he is not Profundly awake to what "Other" is. 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

You probably don't love manipulating people.

You probably love power.

The feeling of being important.

Affecting & influencing others.

[Letho]

On 08/02/2025 at 7:22 AM, Butters said:

I absolutely love manipulating other people. The more I conduct myself in business and learn about the world, the more I enjoy manipulating my surroundings and other people in it. This is the definition of the creation process. 

Leo has said that karma isn't real, and I will continue to enjoy this fact. 

Moreover, please note that, even though my spiritual ego would make it seem as if I think people are equal, I believe and act in a way of being superior. I believe I am superior to other people. Even when I admit my own weaknesses, I think just the act of doing so makes me superior and more advanced than other people. 

I will lie when I think I can get away with it and it doesn't make me feel bad. For that reason, I don't think I lie too often. When I lie and manipulate consciously, I thoroughly enjoy it. 

I believe I am allowed to lie to the extend I see fit. For example, if I market a supplement and I promise it is fantastic and will make you fitter, even though I know it won't, I will not feel bad. In fact, I believe I deserve the money and will spend it more wisely than the next guy. Other marketers are average whereas I am a self actualizing one, so the money goes to me. Sure you can poke holes in this, I understand all that, but I will continue to think and act in a way that favors my survival over others. 

Just to be clear: I do not enjoy hurting people, that has nothing to do with it. I enjoy asserting myself into the world, sculpting the world to the image I see. 

Ah, well, yal all know how I feel about manipulation. No surprises there. And now, I suppose, you can understand one of my expressed life imperatives a little better that I needn't disclose openly in this comment, though I tend to lean more on the environmental side of things rather than chalking it all up to genetics. Still, it’s interesting how patterns reveal themselves, and how those patterns, like a sentience, cannot see and undo its own unraveling as the 'sadism' analogously speaking, is... to move to the underworld... too tasteful. 

Now, to our esteemed self-proclaimed superior being, your philosophy, at the very least, is consistent bud! You enjoy manipulation, you see it as a creative force, and you believe the world is something to be sculpted in your image. Fine. That’s a coherent worldview. Ruthless, but coherent.

But tell me this, what happens when the world manipulates you? Because for all this talk of control, superiority, and bending reality to your will, you’re still operating within a system of described DNA imprints (epigenetics inclusive) including the world at large analogously that doesn’t exactly care about how you see it. Power is only power until someone with more of it decides you’re in the way.

And beyond that, what’s your endgame? You talk about survival, but survival for what? What happens when you get everything you want, when you’ve asserted, acquired, dominated, what then Mr sheep in wolf's clothes haha nice touch with Butters? More? Forever? Until when? Because even emperors get forgotten, and every manipulator eventually meets someone sharper. So what’s your actual play here?

I'm just toying, but my attention is hierarchical, so this deserves the slightest of interest if I can create the slightest of positive effects. Readers outside, please help me ahha, but only in the most sophisticated of ways for the integrity of the forums path towards goodness. 

Just curious Butters, cloaking himself in naivety, in jest. You seem to like the game, so let’s see how deep you’ve really thought it through, whatchugot?

 

Edited Saturday at 02:16 AM by Letho

[Breakingthewall]

@Letho good reflection. not only about the op but about all those who manipulate, which are many. They all operate from density, from an absolutely miserable level, far from the truth, corrupt. It is the stupidest thing a human being can do and it comes from the limited vision of life in the miserable egoic self-conception, the prison of self-concept. From freedom you do not manipulate, nor lie, only because you perceive that doing so works against you, you are closing the vital flow that gives you energy, you are ruining yourself, anchoring yourself in misery.

[Letho]

 

@Breakingthewallwell said. Manipulation isn’t just corrosive to others it’s corrosive to the self and not because of some moral rule but because it forces a person to play a smaller game than what reality actually allows, moreover, neuroplastically that gets wired over and over and like I said by that time, fuck, its seemingly impossible to unravel those tangled threads into straight lines that can be made sense of when someone wants to change especially as they get older. Seeing this so transparently has been a reminder that's now forced me to unravel my own folded clothing on humanity to iron out a few creases I underestimated before including on my own ability to spot deception. History has shown me I'm pretty damn good, however its also shown me that I have some areas of improvement there as well.

@Butters, you’ve constructed a worldview where superiority is measured by control over others. But let’s be real if you need deception to win, then you were never truly superior to begin with. Real dominance isn’t about control it’s about not needing it, its the natural path of meta-ascendence, and maybe you'll learn how to align yourself slowly there.

If I have anything else, one more question to ponder...  If you lost the ability to manipulate, that is, if people saw through you instantly what would be left of you? Would you still be standing, or would you be nothing without the game?

Because if the game is your identity in it as @Breakingthewall noted, then you don’t own power. Power owns you.

So what then aye?