Trump on Gaza

[Terell Kirby]

To watch Trump basically make a mockery out of the crisis in Gaza is beyond me. Lacks zero empathy for the amount of lives lost and the bloodshed of innocent civilians at the hands of the Israeli military. I really feel for Palestinians in Gaza-Trump talks of Gaza like it’s real estate project, maybe he plans to build a casino or 5 star resort on top of the rubble and dead bodies 

This man speaks in ways that’s so nonsensical it’s stunning to see how far he’s made it in politics.

Edited February 5 by Terell Kirby

[Raze]

Good analysis:

https://peterbeinart.substack.com/p/from-greenland-to-gaza

https://x.com/amanpour/status/1887227472212627960
 

 

[Basman]

I'm starting to feel that Trump in power is actually quiet dangerous (some of you will say "duh"). His behavior is undermining western hegemony. Completely backwards.

[Terell Kirby]

 

[Hojo]

Thats how you get terrorists trump.

Its very clear to me that the second they ship natives completely out of their homeland shit will go down. God wants the natives on their homeland. White people have tried very hard to completely take it away but it won't happen. If it does godzilla is coming out of the bag.

India is the only country that has fended them off.

Edited February 6 by Hojo

[Twentyfirst]

10 hours ago, Basman said:

I'm starting to feel that Trump in power is actually quiet dangerous (some of you will say "duh"). His behavior is undermining western hegemony. Completely backwards.

How do you think western hegemony got started in the first place?

[zazen]

1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

How do you think western hegemony got started in the first place?

It’s more a reflection of Western hegemony in decline. Some empires fall backwards and inwards, others forward and outwards in a last attempt - US is falling forward.

I’m seeing some seemingly intelligent people on Twitter declare how the US is “so back” lol. All these imperial bootlickers including Musk commenting FAFO (fuck around and find out) to Trump supposedly putting many nations (allies included) and institutions on “notice”.

Everyone’s like “omg who’s Uncle Sam gonna come after next and put in place” meanwhile it’s the US who has lost its place as the centre of the world.

They’re reframing posturing as strength and a L as a W. This empires lashing out because it’s dying out.

Edited Thursday at 10:35 AM by zazen

[Twentyfirst]

@zazen Their attitude on twitter about being back as a dominating force, feeling the superiority in the air, and mocking other nations as a way to get them to tremble...is the exact reason why nobody wants to deal with them anymore. They never learn or change.

Even when they suffer themselves for a decade and make their great comeback it's not like they become more humble and compassionate and feel what others feel. They just want to selfishly make America great again at all costs without any regard for anyone else.

There solution to feeling what it's like to decline is simply America first which shows where their true agenda lies. It's either America second and war first. Or America first. There is no third option. 

They never learn and they never change. Ever. But part of what makes America America is for everyone in the world to let them be America. That's built in

 

 

[Basman]

4 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

How do you think western hegemony got started in the first place?

I'm under no illusion what nation building entails. I'm more concerned about the weakening military deterrence that Trump has caused. This could lead to war that would have otherwise been prevented. He's unnecessarily weakening our alliances and Stage Blue/Red countries will jump on that opportunity. 

[Elliott]

I think Ezra Klein explains the current barrage of lunacy in his recent video. It's a tactic from Steve Bannon and has as little efficacy as you would expect coming from the Bannon think tank.

 

 

Edited Thursday at 03:27 PM by Elliott

[Twentyfirst]

3 hours ago, Basman said:

I'm under no illusion what nation building entails. I'm more concerned about the weakening military deterrence that Trump has caused. This could lead to war that would have otherwise been prevented. He's unnecessarily weakening our alliances and Stage Blue/Red countries will jump on that opportunity. 

Your definitely under illusion

Not all nations are built the same

It's crazy to think that they are

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Many of you like to talk about US and western hegemony supposedly falling, but I'd like to see some hard evidence of that. And even if you have such evidence (with whatever markers you chose to interpret as signs of the supposed fall), remember that there has been no country or empire like US in the history of mankind. No, you cannot compare it to the Roman Empire, nor the Britisch Empire, nor any other empire. Not in terms of available resources, not politically, not geographically. If you think a country that has so many things going for it is in a risk of rapid decline or even not being a superpower anymore, you better have some good evidence

[Rafael Thundercat]

Nothing bad have ever happen in the Universe,this is how selfish you are. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

What I'm wondering is, is there a concrete plan to move the Palestinians back into the Gaza Strip once it's rebuilt? I know Trump says the plan is to temporarily move the Gazans to Egypt, rebuild Gaza, and then move the Palestinians back. But I don't... trust him. What if the Palestinians are moved out, Gaza is rebuilt, but then, completely out of nowhere, for made up security reasons, the Palestinians are not allowed to move back in for an indefinite amount of time? An indefinite amount of time, for which in practice becomes permanent. 

Edited Thursday at 10:42 PM by Husseinisdoingfine

[Basman]

2 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

Your definitely under illusion

Not all nations are built the same

It's crazy to think that they are

I have no idea what your on about.

[hoodrow trillson]

2 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

What I'm wondering is, is there a concrete plan to move the Palestinians back into the Gaza Strip once it's rebuilt? I know Trump says the plan is to temporarily move the Gazans to Egypt, rebuild Gaza, and then move the Palestinians back. But I don't... trust him. What if the Palestinians are moved out, Gaza is rebuilt, but then, completely out of nowhere, for made up security reasons, the Palestinians are not allowed to move back in for an indefinite amount of time? An indefinite amount of which in practice becomes permanent. 

Hell no.  You'd be a fool to think he's going to spend any energy or money to move Palestinians back lol 

They're going to whitewash the fuck out of that area and prop up casinos, hotels and entertainment.  A sick little American Israeli trophy.

[Elliott]

7 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Many of you like to talk about US and western hegemony supposedly falling, but I'd like to see some hard evidence of that. And even if you have such evidence (with whatever markers you chose to interpret as signs of the supposed fall), remember that there has been no country or empire like US in the history of mankind. No, you cannot compare it to the Roman Empire, nor the Britisch Empire, nor any other empire. Not in terms of available resources, not politically, not geographically. If you think a country that has so many things going for it is in a risk of rapid decline or even not being a superpower anymore, you better have some good evidence

What hegemony, there never even was one, the U.S. never compared to the British empire. What makes you think the U.S. ever had a hegemony? Who has the U.S. ever dominated, Puerto Rico?

 

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 12:12 AM by Elliott

[gambler]

7 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

What I'm wondering is, is there a concrete plan to move the Palestinians back into the Gaza Strip once it's rebuilt? I know Trump says the plan is to temporarily move the Gazans to Egypt, rebuild Gaza, and then move the Palestinians back. But I don't... trust him. What if the Palestinians are moved out, Gaza is rebuilt, but then, completely out of nowhere, for made up security reasons, the Palestinians are not allowed to move back in for an indefinite amount of time? An indefinite amount of time, for which in practice becomes permanent. 

Trump said permanently relocate them into Jordan, Egypt, or multiple other countries. You need to go back and re watch. 

[Breakingthewall]

Does anyone still believe that the Palestinians managed to cross the safest border in the known universe with a bulldozer and paragliders without being detected? It seems like a joke. The difference with Trump is that he says out loud what others don't say, but do.

[Nivsch]

22 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

What I'm wondering is, is there a concrete plan to move the Palestinians back into the Gaza Strip once it's rebuilt? I know Trump says the plan is to temporarily move the Gazans to Egypt, rebuild Gaza, and then move the Palestinians back. But I don't... trust him. What if the Palestinians are moved out, Gaza is rebuilt, but then, completely out of nowhere, for made up security reasons, the Palestinians are not allowed to move back in for an indefinite amount of time? An indefinite amount of time, for which in practice becomes permanent. 

If there won't be a mechanism preventing them from being controlled by a terrorist group then why they will want to come back? And how will you assure the cycle won't repeat itself?

Edited Friday at 05:10 PM by Nivsch