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A Christian "defends" his belief about God

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5 hours ago, gettoefl said:

You will find it an unhappy experience. 

Doesn't this imply that "unhappy experience" and trying to follow an illusion are bad?

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7 hours ago, Elliott said:

Doesn't this imply that "unhappy experience" and trying to follow an illusion are bad?

Nothing is bad. Rather it is mad, sad, self-harming and doomed to failure.

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34 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Nothing is bad. Rather it is mad, sad, self-harming and doomed to failure.

But it is something that people should avoid? And the thought of something being "mad, sad. self harming", that's not illusion?

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56 minutes ago, Elliott said:

But it is something that people should avoid? And the thought of something being "mad, sad. self harming", that's not illusion?

There isn't should. It was done. It is undone. Time only seems to be. This universe is a mistaken detour immediately corrected. God allows his children to enter dead ends of their own making. To see they are nothing. You won't want to make a silly mistake twice. Life is perfect in heaven. 

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7 hours ago, gettoefl said:

 

7 hours ago, gettoefl said:

 You won't want to make a silly mistake twice. 

And you don't think this thought right here is illusion? "Mistake" doesn't imply bad or something you shouldn't do? What does 'bad' mean to you, it doesn't mean undesirable, something someone doesn't like?
 

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3 hours ago, Elliott said:

And you don't think this thought right here is illusion? "Mistake" doesn't imply bad or something you shouldn't do? What does 'bad' mean to you, it doesn't mean undesirable, something someone doesn't like?
 

In heaven there is choice. You don't need it but you have it. You are allowed to imagine there is non-heaven and even take an apparent vacation there. But it's a silly thing to do as we all now know when staying here. There is no bad. But god wouldn't be much fun if he didn't allow his kids some latitude to try out stuff. Every parent knows this is love.

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4 hours ago, gettoefl said:

In heaven there is choice. You don't need it but you have it. You are allowed to imagine there is non-heaven and even take an apparent vacation there. But it's a silly thing to do as we all now know when staying here. There is no bad. But god wouldn't be much fun if he didn't allow his kids some latitude to try out stuff. Every parent knows this is love.

Do you know of others that have reached the level of awareness you refer to?

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8 hours ago, Elliott said:

Do you know of others that have reached the level of awareness you refer to?

A good book to read would be, The Disappearance of the Universe. It's a gentle introduction to ACIM, a true story though it will read as fiction to most people. I am not sure about any others who get this. The ACIM reddit group knows the metaphysics deeply. I am still a beginner myself and experience enormous resistance rolling back the ego. I do believe I am moving in the right direction with it. It is no good just understanding it. The ego loves that. The key is implementing in every interaction and treating everyone as God's lost child. See God in all so that God will speak back to you.

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