Trump slaps insane 25% tariffs on Mexico, Canada, China

[Ishanga]

Economically I think Canada becoming a part of the USA would be beneficial over all, even if just our dollar become American Dollars we would benefit greatly, and the trade and Us Becoming a part of the economy of the USA would make this region a super super power, with our resources combined with the USA that would make all of Us in North America almost Invincible Economically and National Security wise I think..

I'm not identified with Canada, its a Great Country no doubt, but all Countries for the most part have their Greatness, my generation maybe is the last one to have any sort of strong identification with Canada, my Dad's did big time, he was in WW2 and fought and was a proud Canadian, since being involved in Spiritual Matters, I've dropped most identifications at least lowered them, and in my POV overall the benefits out way the disadvantages (which I don't really see) in regards to joining the Union in the States, especially too if we could live and work their without Green Cards required and such perks!!

From what I am hearing here on the media, Trump want to do something big this time to cement his legacy, and that is he wants to add land mass to the USA, so acquiring Canada (since we are one of the largest Countries land mass wise) would fulfill that desire he has, and he is going to do it via Economically making it hard for Canada to stay afloat, with all this uncertainty investors will not invest in Canada and we have our own trading problems btwn provinces that doesn't allow us to be self sufficient and our politics is messed up right now...

[zazen]

A interesting comment from a Canadian - the boycotting of US products itself would be impactful. Trumps under the illusion that US can just create everything itself and be self sufficient - of the major imports from Canada potash would be the hardest to get elsewhere at cost and is used as fertilizer for US agriculture.

US oil refineries are configured to process  Canadian crude. Re-configuring them would be a 5-10 year process and huge investment. Same with lumbar which is used for housing - to get the same quality and quantity with the environmental protections in place is another 5-10 year process.

 

Pretty ballsy to go after something that will cause inflation in two essentials such as housing and food. Energy, in this case oil, basically seeps into the cost of everything.

When it comes to Trump it’s best to go by the heuristic : take him seriously but never at his word. Anything he says may just be and often is just a bargaining tactic for other goals. Other than that, he simply wants to reframe the status quo as a win for his own ego, or to posture American strength to the world. This is why the whole game of calling upon troops with Canada and Mexico which had already been agreed upon.

Even with Panama, the whole rhetoric of China controlling it is utter nonsense. They simply operate there as any other country can. Imagine crying about international commerce - what a sign of weakness dressing up as strength. It’s like complaining that the kid who opened  a hot dog stand on your street is gonna steal your kitchen. With Greenland too, as if the US can’t operate there when Denmark is the most on team loyal partner to the US. They can simply just ask if they want to do something..lol

I think in the macro the US empire wants to consolidate control of its hemisphere as it’s lost control of much of the world. This usually happens with empires - they rise on protectionism, liberalise into laissez-fare free trade at their peak, then defensively become more protectionist in their decline against rising powers, by which time it’s too late to reverse the trend. Same thing happened with Britian.

The reason they want free trade at their peak is because they have developed enough productive capacity and are confident they can dominate the free market - so they want open markets to sell all their production to.

Edited 10 hours ago by zazen

[Ishanga]

@zazen The above meme and what is said is Dangerous, on most all front we would lose any sort of war against the USA, you see this is what deep identification does, it blinds one to reality, this person is completely Identified with a man made line on a map, via that he thinks we can fight with the Americans, we can for a bit, deprive them of things they need, but in the end we will lose big time, so in the end joining the USA economically, would be a benefit for Us not a bad thing imo...Saying this as a Canadian...