Netherlands Research Chemicals ban

[LambdaDelta]

https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2025/01/28/eerste-kamer-stemt-voor-designerdrugsverbod

Effective on July 1, 2025. 6 months remain.

Netherlands is the largest, for all intents and purposes only producer of research chemicals and even many classic already illegal psychedelics in the EU.

While at the moment this amendment largely targets trashy substances (stimulants, synthetic cannabinoids) for junkies, some good phenethylamines such as the 2C-x class are also affected. The law also allows for expedited banning of entire substance groups in the future, no more year-long debates. Last but not least, a lot of vendors are expected to shut down, as said trashy substances make up a large portion of their revenue. The most prominent lab in the EU, Lizard Labs, responsible for producing pretty much all tryptamines and dissociatives on the market has closed last month. The US will also be affected, even though Canada has its own largely independent RC market, it's not as diverse, so expect even less variety and higher prices. I expect plenty of analogues to pop up regardless, but they're getting progressively worse as legal options run out. 

I've stocked up on pretty much everything I could want and put it into deep freeze, that way I can't be caught off guard. If you care and can afford it, consider doing the same, especially if liquidation discounts come up.

Edited January 29 by LambdaDelta

[The Crocodile]

I haven't had anything since Lizard stopped shipping to the US.

You could always learn to meditate bro

[Leo Gura]

Good ol Canada is the drug capitol of the world now.

[The Crocodile]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Good ol Canada is the drug capitol of the world now.

FUCK! That's why trump and the Republicans can't take it.

Edited January 29 by The Crocodile

[LambdaDelta]

17 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

You could always learn to meditate bro

[The Crocodile]

1 minute ago, LambdaDelta said:

trataka

https://firekasina.org/

[LambdaDelta]

9 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

trataka

https://firekasina.org/

This seems useful in its own way, I'll give it a shot. But it's no substitute for psychedelics.

[The Crocodile]

19 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

But it's no substitute for psychedelics.

That's a belief

It's stronger than psychedelics and destabilizes the consciousness less, and causes less damage to the body.

Psychedelics is like using a scuba tank, this is like growing gills.

Being a fishperson vs. being a scubadiver

[integral]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Good ol Canada is the drug capitol of the world now.

Not for long, the Republican Party has a high chance of winning the next election.

[integration journey]

4 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

FUCK! That's why trump and the Republicans can't take it.

😂😂

[integration journey]

33 minutes ago, RightHand said:

Actualized.org Lab when? 

 

 

 

When Leo moves to Canada😂

[Davino]

Oh no...

Thanks for sharing

On the other, there's gonna be good prices as they want to sell all their stock.

[LambdaDelta]

Here's a comprehensive list of everything falling under the ban:

https://www.changingperspective.info/nieuws/lijst-stoffen-verboden/

Not a lot of worthwhile stuff, even less of it you can actually buy, so right now isn't yet time for panic, but as explained in the OP there's trickle down consequences of this even if our favorite substances aren't currently affected.

[AION]

8 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2025/01/28/eerste-kamer-stemt-voor-designerdrugsverbod

Effective on July 1, 2025. 6 months remain.

Netherlands is the largest, for all intents and purposes only producer of research chemicals and even many classic already illegal psychedelics in the EU.

While at the moment this amendment largely targets trashy substances (stimulants, synthetic cannabinoids) for junkies, some good phenethylamines such as the 2C-x class are also affected. The law also allows for expedited banning of entire substance groups in the future, no more year-long debates. Last but not least, a lot of vendors are expected to shut down, as said trashy substances make up a large portion of their revenue. The most prominent lab in the EU, Lizard Labs, responsible for producing pretty much all tryptamines and dissociatives on the market has closed last month. The US will also be affected, even though Canada has its own largely independent RC market, it's not as diverse, so expect even less variety and higher prices. I expect plenty of analogues to pop up regardless, but they're getting progressively worse as legal options run out. 

I've stocked up on pretty much everything I could want and put it into deep freeze, that way I can't be caught off guard. If you care and can afford it, consider doing the same, especially if liquidation discounts come up.

So how are you going to get your stuff after your stash is out?

[LambdaDelta]

21 minutes ago, AION said:

So how are you going to get your stuff after your stash is out?

It is too large to be seriously concerned about that for the next 5-7 years. Where there's a will there's a way. I can keep stocking up a select few substances with spare change over time, depending on how the situation evolves. Also there's always darknet markets; I have my preferences, but in the end there's almost nothing that can't be done with the classics like mushrooms and LSD, those will always be available. Lastly by the time I do run out, I plan to be financially comfortable enough to afford a custom synthesis. I may also die long before that or quit psychedelics.

[Schizophonia]

On 29/01/2025 at 9:02 AM, Davino said:

Oh no...

Thanks for sharing

On the other, there's gonna be good prices as they want to sell all their stock.

Who cares.

On deep web i can have like 50 blotters of 300ug for 80 euros from a very good source. 

[AION]

40 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Who cares.

On deep web i can have like 50 blotters of 300ug for 80 euros from a very good source. 

I want your trust in humanity and trust in anonymous suppliers

Edited January 30 by AION

[Schizophonia]

11 minutes ago, AION said:

I want your trust in humanity and trust in anonymous suppliers

One of the biggest suppliers to most onion markets. Probably more reliable than your rc sites, a lot of rc sites are run by mentally ill people who exit scam or lie on the compounds lol

[Girzo]

@AION I mean it's LSD, it's not like it can be impure or something in any meaningful quantities. Anyone who makes it is a chemist advanced enough not to make stupid mistakes and is able to purify it with columns. LSD is a safe bet to e\get whenever, at most the advertised potency per blotter is off, but that's why you buy bulk and test on yourself the relative strength of a blotter and then dose based on that as a reference point and not microgram dosages shared online.

[AION]

Those RC sites have a reputation to uphold. Those anonymous suppliers on the dark web could be selling anything because they don’t have liability. 10% of humanity are psychopaths. That should be enough to worry about. I don’t want to bring people to ideas but they can do some fucked up shit. 

Edited Friday at 02:18 PM by AION