How to deal with STAGE RED PEOPLE ?

[Peo]

@mmKay Would require quick reaction time tho. I guess i could ask a women to hit me and try to pratice that move ^.  

[Ash55]

I had to deal with stage red people in the middle east a lots of people  female/male

Ultimately build different relationship and cut them or keep their influence minimum

You need to see people as they are, don't try to fix them or change them, but try to see their motivations, this help you to be outside of the situation (by also observing your self and being mindful) (also accept them as they are)
Don't provoke these people, don't fight them its like you are dealing with a bull if its stage red don't confront it because these people are easy to provoke  and short sighted they would rather commit violence and go to jail rather than seeing all the consequences
It's like a delicate dance of setting boundaries and they would violate it and you try to enforce them again

instead of fighting with them set boundaries and make them feel you are not a pray to them, its almost like you want that person to see you as part of the group but not literally, And its almost like you need to earn their respect

[Myagooshki]

2 hours ago, mmKay said:

Nah, the biggest poverty is often right next to the most luxurious castles. I live in Marbella, Spain, and there’s a lot of crime around a lot of wealthy people. Just because an area is full of rich, Orange/Green millionaires doesn’t mean Red isn’t lurking nearby. In fact, extreme wealth often attrcts even more Red behavior like scamming, theft, intimidation, etc because the opportunities are ripe.

Develop good social skills and a degree of financial freedom so if things get too bad you can allways weasel out or move

Red isn't necessarily bad. It's like having a toilet in the house. A house without a toilet is an incomplete house, but you don't want to spend all of your time in there. 

I actually would think the least amount of red occurs in like.. rural suburbs. Not so rural to where everybody is living off the land but rural enough to where there's a lot of stubborn blue/orange and that's it. But then, is that what you really want either? 

[ryoko]

27 minutes ago, Myagooshki said:

Red isn't necessarily bad. It's like having a toilet in the house.

Red is toilet? huh, that's your flavor of bias, eh?

No stage is good or bad. In fact, all stages are equal and the same. All is One.
It's easy to see a stage's limitation and make that it's identity. Careful there.

You're forgetting red's beauty. No group or person ever possess the full spectrum that is red.

Edited 4 hours ago by ryoko

[Myagooshki]

28 minutes ago, ryoko said:

Red is toilet? huh, that's your flavor of bias, eh?

Yes and no. When I talk to people who don't know anything about Spiral Dynamics, I'll say something like "people like Andrew Tate are right 5% of the time. Think of the collective consciousness like a house. You need a toilet in the house, but you don't necessarily spend all of your time on there. But you still need a toilet.". I mean shit, I just got off the toilet myself. I have two toilets in my house. One of them is a bit small and hard to shit on, I should upgrade it but maybe I won't if I leave this place in less than a few years. It is not the case that I don't use the comparison to talk to people who have much more of a bias towards stage red than you and I do about this topic.

But, the toilet is still essential! Not having a toilet is worse than not having a shower or tub. You can wash yourself off with wet wipes and deodorant, but dealing with waste is much more complicated than that.  You don't want to just throw it in the garbage, because you use the garbage to prepare food. Etc. Do you know how much money the Indian government has spent in the last 10 years trying to give every Indian toilets? There are probably more toilets in India right now than there are showers. Those Indians probably have a toilet, and their shower is a plastic bucket and a drain on the floor with a little 5 inch high wall seperating it from the rest of the bathroom: not exactly what I would call a tub. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Myagooshki

[ryoko]

1 hour ago, Myagooshki said:

 When I talk to people who don't know anything about Spiral Dynamics, I'll say something like "people like Andrew Tate are right 5% of the time.

Tate have Red, but Red isn't Tate. Red is so much more than that.

Idc how you choose to label it and make sense of your reality. My argument being, "people like Andrew Tate" aren't worthy of being called Red. The beauty of Red is lost on them. Red is not something for you to shit on.

We all do this at some point. Corrupting the epistemic ecosystem by labeling "stages by people", you did worse here. Be mindful.

Edited 2 hours ago by ryoko

[Myagooshki]

1 hour ago, ryoko said:

Tate have Red, but Red isn't Tate. Red is so much more than that.

Idc how you choose to label it and make sense of your reality. My argument being, "people like Andrew Tate" aren't worthy of being called Red. The beauty of Red is lost on them. Red is not something for you to shit on.

We all do this at some point. Corrupting the epistemic ecosystem by labeling "stages by people", you did worse here. Be mindful.

I'm sorry but at this point it seems like you're just being belligerent.