How to deal with STAGE RED PEOPLE ?

[Kairos]

1 hour ago, Myagooshki said:

What else about their behavior bothers you?

Low quality work , Scamming , Manipulating ,Not paying money back , Making threats . Although they are not that smart while doing these things you can just tell but still can't they just act civil .

Getting disappointed when you point out how they lied .

Part of the reason they do this is because they were taught to be this way since childhood in order to survive .

 

[Kairos]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

If a psychopath breaks through your front door with a chainsaw, you gotta deal with that on that level.

See in extreme cases best move is clear but what to do when it's subtle threat ?

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Which is why police and prisons exist.

Police here is slow too +legal work is just hassle .

After 7 months I'll be in new better city than eventually out of the country  .

Till then I'll just try to beat them in their own game if it's necessary . 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Kairos

[Leo Gura]

27 minutes ago, Kairos said:

See in extreme cases best move is clear but what to do when it's subtle threat ?

That's why Sartre said,

"Hell is other people."

You just do the best you can manage.

If you want a permanent cure, you buy a mansion on a golf course where you live far away from Red.

Edited 15 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Myagooshki]

25 minutes ago, Kairos said:

Low quality work , Scamming , Manipulating ,Not paying money back , Making threats . Although they are not that smart while doing these things you can just tell but still can't they just act civil .

Getting disappointed when you point out how they lied .

Part of the reason they do this is because they were taught to be this way since childhood in order to survive .

 

1. Low quality work.
     -Discuss with them the quality of their work. Tell them that what they are doing is not meeting certain standards. Tell them that you will fire them if they don't fix what they did, or depending on the situation, just fire them and find somebody better. It depends on what it is. Call them out for their incompetence; for example, when I was in India I had some guys come over to fix the wallpaper. They were chatting. 2 hours gone by no work they were still chatting. I said "what is this? You're on the clock. You haven't gotten a single piece of wallpaper up!". They said "relax". I said "no, I'm not relaxing, you're getting out of my house and you're not getting paid!". I hired better people. 

2. Scamming. 
     -Recently I gave an off-app Uber ride to a woman in a precarious living situation. She said the money was back in the hotel where I was going to drop her off and then after we would go to Target. I should have asked her for the money straight up before the ride and if she didn't give me the money, no ride. I've given plenty of off-app rides before and had similar demands but I trusted her. Nah. Always gotta get the money straight up.

3. Manipulating.
     -I suppose this one is a little bit more difficult. But if they manipulate you, you manipulate them back, you get a little angry with them. Why is this one a little bit more difficult? Because it's more broad. It's more general. 

4. Not paying money back.
     -Depends on the situation, you might have to withold something they need from them in order to get your money back. Leo says in one of his vidos actually that he was trying to get a refund at the dentist and they were fucking off so he banged loudly on their door OPEN UP! OPEN UP! GIVE ME MY REFUND LIKE YOU SAID! and banged really hard on the door and made a public scene and he got his money back. He said he was using stage red techniques to counter attack bullshit stage red opponents.

5. Making threats.
     -Well in America we can go to the police and get people thrown in jail if they make explicit threats. I think you could probably do that too where you're from. Say that the person is threatening to find you and beat you up.

6. Getting disappointed when you point out about how they lied.
     -This one is my favorite, because you can just keep playing with their emotions by continuing to point out about how they lied and how it's a problem and how they're shitty for doing it. 

[Kairos]

1 hour ago, Myagooshki said:

using stage red techniques to counter attack bullshit stage red opponents.

3 hours ago, Myagooshki said:

 

Yeah this is the key . Gotta attack them where it hurts .

Do you remember what video of leo that was ?

Nice insights btw Ty.

[ryoko]

5 hours ago, Kairos said:

Low quality work , Scamming , Manipulating ,Not paying money back , Making threats .

There's a distance you should keep. Don't ever spend your energy with these people. No matter how friendly they were. You can't deal with these stuff mentioned, what you can do is not be part of it. In other words, not be part of this little community. Cities are no different, you'll find bigger sharks and wolves. They're good at hiding malicious intent, you'll not even know until you're scammed or cheated. Anyway, it's a necessary skill to be able to spot them.

I mentioned about strengthening stage red as a way to protect yourself. I have personal experience, when you talk to these people, you need a different energy, a sort of fire in your eyes, you stand your ground and it becomes possible to avoid them. Don't make deals with those who have low quality values.

If you want good examples of stage red, David Goggins, Shaolin Monks, are like the best form of stage red one can get; in mindset and in practice. The trap there is, however good the stage red, if you're only red you'll be controlled by blue; military and nation. So look out for that.

Edited 10 hours ago by ryoko

[Fadl]

Don't talk too much.

Don't avoid eye contact when it happens (but act like you don't care).

When you smile .. smile sarcastically.

Never say stuff like "im not sure" "thats possible"... etc .. instead say "i dont know" and say it like you are disgust by the question.

Don't talk too much. 

 

Good luck 

 

 

 

[Daniel Balan]

From my experience the best way to deal with red is to try your best to avoid it. 

And when you can't avoid it, you have to be physically strong! Red is only humbled by someone stronger! And if red senses that you are physically stronger that it, they will leave you alone. 

Other that that I will encourage to never escalate with red unless your physical safety is at risk. You should never respond back to insults, In general the less you talk to red the better, you should view every encounter with red as in the Animal Planet documentaries about two lions that only communicate via body language. You should only counter fire with fire only when:

Your physical safety and that of your friends and family is at risk.

Your propriety is being trespassed. 

Your goods are violated. 

You should stand up in those conditions to red. But if a stranger red individual says to suck his dick you should dismiss his entire existence in your mind. And keep on walking. 

 

[Leo Gura]

Yes, Red only respects strength and force.

Like bitchslapping a grizzly bear into submission.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Daniel Balan]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, Red only respects strength and force.

Like bitchslapping a bear into submission.

But even if you could overpower red, it is a bad idea to go in the mud with it, unless you, your family or your proprieties or goods are endangered. From my experience Red is extremely vengeful, if you beat red once, red will remember for 10 or 20 or even 30 years and it will always seek revenge. He could come with a gang of red friends to get revenge on you, also with weapons, I've seen some crazy shit going down. So the bottom line is, to be a man and deal firmly with red, calling the police if things escalate, or as a last resort physically neutralizing the the red thug, but only and only as a last resort solution. Red is really dangerous. Graveyards and prisons are full of big egos. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Daniel Balan

[mmKay]

From my experience, Red is very "gang" focused and highly "us vs. them" oriented. If you're around them long enough and they get to know you, they tend to defend you and grow on you. It depends on whether it’s toxic Red (reckless, destructive, and self-serving) or healthy Red (loyal, protective, and honorable). Of course, it's better not to be around these types in the first place, but if you live in that kind of environment long enough, some of them will become your ride-or-die.

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Daniel Balan said:

But even if you could overpower red, it is a bad idea to go in the mud with it,

Very true.

Best to act tough but back away slowly. You don't want to actually fight.

[Daniel Balan]

@Leo Gura But as you said Leo! The best way to deal with red is to move in a highly secluded rich golf course mansion where all your neighbours are stage Orange/Green millionaires

[mmKay]

16 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

@Leo Gura But as you said Leo! The best way to deal with red is to move in a highly secluded rich golf course mansion where all your neighbours are stage Orange/Green millionaires

Nah, the biggest poverty is often right next to the most luxurious castles. I live in Marbella, Spain, and there’s a lot of crime around a lot of wealthy people. Just because an area is full of rich, Orange/Green millionaires doesn’t mean Red isn’t lurking nearby. In fact, extreme wealth often attrcts even more Red behavior like scamming, theft, intimidation, etc because the opportunities are ripe.

Develop good social skills and a degree of financial freedom so if things get too bad you can allways weasel out or move

Edited 3 hours ago by mmKay

[The Crocodile]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Best to act tough but back away slowly. You don't want to actually fight.

Have you ever been in a fight as an adult?

[Kairos]

36 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Best to act tough but back away slowly. You don't want to actually fight.

  Yeah basically you gotta be Andrew Tate to deal with these people .

Show no weakness , Appear strong .

+ @Daniel Balan You're right It's best to avoid downright vengeful or evil people as there is no point to prove with them .

But I was talking about subtle stage red people like day to day scammers .

 

 

14 hours ago, Myagooshki said:

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Kairos

[Leo Gura]

It's exactly like dealing with the Mob.

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

Have you ever been in a fight as an adult?

Only attacked by drunk girls.

[Peo]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Only attacked by drunk girls.

How did you handle it? 

Would like to know how to deal with that situation like a pro if i it happens to me one day. 

[mmKay]

1 minute ago, Peo said:

How did you handle it? 

Would like to know how to deal with that situation like a pro if i it happens to me one day.