Do you pay for the first date?

[AION]

If she is an authentic nice girl I do actually pay because I want to. If I don’t want to it is usually because for some reason which I stated. 

Edited January 28 by AION

[Hojo]

Paying or not will not make her have sex with you or not. If she want to have sex she will. So make her pay half to show her you are only interested in sex. If she dosent hook up she wasn't going to. 

I think the bigger thing is paying for her after. Women will feel like a prostitute if you give her money after sex if you made her pay before. 

A woman came over and brought weed and we had sex and when she was leaving and gave me her weed. I paid for the weed and she was upset that I paid for it cause she came for sex and left with money.

Edited January 28 by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, AION said:

If she is an authentic nice girl I do actually pay because I want to. If I don’t want to it is usually because for some reason which I stated. 

I’d probably do the same if I was a guy 

[Princess Arabia]

Yes, there are games that need to be played, or not, in order to accomplish your goal or get what you want. If you want to get married no games there just be upfront and act accordingly. Relationship, no games needed, just be upfront and state your stance.

Just sex now is a different story because most women are not just attracted to a body, it's how you make them feel and what emotions you can stir within them. That's a bit of a challenge but only if you're the one doing the chasing. This is why you feel the need to play games here and you can't be straight up because you lack the confidence within to think you have the abilities to do so without needing to resort to games. Most women aren't about to just sleep with you like you're about just sleeping with her just because you find her body attractive, so now the games begin. How about just being genuinely attracted to the person and that will speak for itself and maybe be reciprocated back into a mutual thing because the person feels genuine interest. Take her out, get some laughs in, relax a bit and enjoy each other's company. If you can't do that, or even want to, then why do you feel entitled to their body just for kicks.

[Princess Arabia]

11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

If she gets upset if you don’t pay in general it suggests she has been brainwashed by her culture which will manifest itself in other ways too in her way of thinking in general just a thought . It’s hive mind. If you ask out I think in those instances one should pay then other instances you pay if you want to. Maybe you want to live by those male, female roles each one to their own. 
 

 

 

If a guy asks you out on a date, would you accept and then proceed to pay half the bill. That's not brainwashing if one is expected to foot the bill for a date they were asked to go on, it's good etiquette. If one offers, then that's a different story. 

[Hojo]

Aka when you are fking talk as dirty as you can. You will stir the emotions up. 

Edited January 28 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

11 minutes ago, AION said:

If she is an authentic nice girl I do actually pay because I want to. If I don’t want to it is usually because for some reason which I stated. 

She don't need those requirements for you to want to sleep with her, only if it means digging into your wallet. I've never heard a guy said "if she's an authentic nice girl", would I only want to sleep with her then.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia If your friend calls you out to eat dinner do you expect them to foot your bill by accepting the invitation to go out and eat?

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia If your friend calls you out to eat dinner do you expect them to foot your bill by accepting the invitation to go out and eat?

You said friend, you need to be more specific. I'll just explain here. If it's gfs and i am prepared financially, I say nothing and just accept and see what happens. They might get the whole bill or i might pick it up. If it's a platonic male friend I'll ask if he's paying just so I know and if I'm prepared to go financially. If it's a date date then yes I expect them to foot the entire bill. All of this is if I was asked.

If I ask, whomever and whatever gender I'll expect to pay unless stated otherwise. Of course excluding husbands and live-ins, that's just whoever and doesn't need negotiating just grab any wallet or purse and pay. 

Edited January 28 by Princess Arabia

[Sugarcoat]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

If a guy asks you out on a date, would you accept and then proceed to pay half the bill. That's not brainwashing if one is expected to foot the bill for a date they were asked to go on, it's good etiquette. If one offers, then that's a different story. 

I should’ve made myself more clear, I said that if you ask someone out then it’s right to pay, so in those instances I stand by it yes 

Edited January 28 by Sugarcoat

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

I should’ve made myself more clear, I said that if you ask someone out then it’s right to pay, so in those instances I stand by it yes 

ok

[Princess Arabia]

If a bunch of friends gather around and one suggests for everyone to go out to eat at that time, no I dont expect the person who made that suggestion to foot the bill. We all chip in unless someone says they got it.

[AION]

@Princess Arabia Those unwritten dating rules are from the 90'ies. The unwritten dating rules of 2025 are very different. If you are young hot girl and you are riding the magic bus getting free stuff left and right - for just existing - you can make those demands but as you get older the story is different...

Edited January 28 by AION

[Something Funny]

@Princess Arabia what's your reasoning behind the idea that whoever asks another person out on a date should be expected to pay?

It sounds very entitled to me, like you are coming down from heaven and doing them a favor

[Hojo]

Yea its an insane amount of rules for one to even begin to decipher. How could you possibly expect a man to know all this.

Its like we'll its a+b then no

If its a+b+d then yes

but if its a + b + e then no.

What we need is true equality everyone pays for themselves unless someone is broken then everyone pays for them.

Edited January 28 by Hojo

[Something Funny]

@Princess Arabia or not even a date, just in general. Whenever I am invited to go out I always assume that I am expected to pay for myself. That just seems like common decency to me. 

A few times I didn't have the money so I would just say that straight away: "sorry, I can't come, I don't have the money right now". And then my friend would say that it's okay and that he will pay for me. And that was super sweet and special. I can't imagine just taking that for granted.

[AION]

Hop on the magic school bus, it is free and it gets you everywhere

[Something Funny]

4 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Yea its an insane amount of rules for one to even begin to decipher. How could you possibly expect a man to know all this.

Its like we'll its a+b then no

If its a+b+d then yes

but if its a + b + e then no.

What we need is true equality everyone pays for themselves unless someone is broken then everyone pays for them.

you are overcomplicating it. It way simpler than that

[AION]

Just now, Something Funny said:

you are overcomplicating it. It way simpler than that

Just as simple as veganism, right?

[Something Funny]

Just now, AION said:

Just as simple as veganism, right?

Cringe