School isn't going to teach you the things you really need to know about life

[NightHawkBuzz]

No school, high school, or college has ever taught me the truths of life; I have had to learn them all on my own. The reality is that if the educational system were to teach the truth about life, it wouldn't necessarily make people feel good, and it might be quite dark to hear. 

Nonetheless, all the insights I have gained independently are still valid truths about life, no matter how bad they may be. I feel that I possess a sense of wisdom from learning these truths that are rarely discussed in school or mentioned in everyday conversations.

Edited January 28 by NightHawkBuzz

[Ramanujan]

education system is designed to make you a worker so you can be hired by factories (corporate ) . Education system is dumped down so that you dont get the critical the critical thinking skills to question authorities

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Honestly, education system is working how it's supposed to be working. They teach you some basic knowledge and objective truths about reality and then it's up to you whether you want to gain higher education and specialize a little bit for XY role in society. Of course that's not so effective anymore but that's not so much a fault of an education system. As it is a "fault" of... something else. Now, is it possible to make it more engaging, fun and less factory-like and less prussian-like - yeah, sure, but this basic model I feel, is solid.

The so called realities of life cannot be really taught in this way because their nature is very relative and apply from person to person in varrying degrees. What you see as dark someone else might not see that way or maybe they're naturally more priviliged than you in many ways. Best to just keep it to platforms such as these

[Brittany]

It depends on what classes you sign up for in college too.

Some of my Philosophy and Science classes had mind blowing discussions.

[Hojo]

Schools there as a mask to create a voice in your head that you don't know how to control then shit on you and make the voice turn into a curse. Its a slavery device. What they teach is garbage and completely useless.

Then they make up words like potential and make you think you are not using your body properly and to make you feel like you suck.

Edited January 28 by Hojo

[gambler]

College isn’t meant to teach you the truths of life, it’s meant to give you the tools to think for yourself. 

Edited January 28 by gambler

[NightHawkBuzz]

  On 1/28/2025 at 10:47 AM, Brittany said:

It depends on what classes you sign up for in college too.

Some of my Philosophy and Science classes had mind blowing discussions.

@Hojo Yeah I was thinking other than Philosophy classes which actually discuss life meaning and existence no other classes really teach you about the truths of life. Science is also interesting if you have taken classes that do that to. 

[NightHawkBuzz]

  On 1/28/2025 at 0:54 PM, gambler said:

College isn’t meant to teach you the truths of life, it’s meant to give you the tools to think for yourself. 

@gambler Yeah but I mean real valuable wisdom things that actually matter school never teaches you that I had to learn that all on my own. 

Like real truths of life that is how reality and existence actually work I never learned any of that from school it has all been on my own. 

[NightHawkBuzz]

  On 1/28/2025 at 5:09 AM, Ramanujan said:

education system is designed to make you a worker so you can be hired by factories (corporate ) . Education system is dumped down so that you dont get the critical the critical thinking skills to question authorities

@Ramanujan Yeah that and also the fact that it doesn't talk about reality or existence in a way that makes you really understand what is going on in life.

I've learned more about how life actually works and how existence really is than any class has ever taught me. 

[roncullen21]

I see your point of view, but I can't fully agree with it. The purpose of education and different educational institutions is not to teach you wisdom. The purpose is to give you professional skills and knowledge that will allow you to become a good specialist. Wisdom is something that is often gained through personal experience, reflection, and exposure to different perspectives rather than through formal education. Schools and universities are designed to provide foundational knowledge, critical thinking skills, and professional expertise rather than direct life lessons. I learn from life, and from mistakes, and in university, I learn how to be a good specialist. Both is hard, but when it comes to education, it's easier. For example, when I have some troubles, I can look for helpful info online. Yesterday, I was writing a paper and found this page https://onlineassignmentexpert.net/how-to-write-a-cover-page-for-a-research-paper/ , which provided me with information on how to write some parts of it. When I face a problem in my personal life, I can't do the same. I think about it, I do something, and then I face the consequences, good or bad. That's how I learn in life. I think that formal education is necessary for sure. And it has its' own role.

 

[Basman]

You can't outsource learning wisedom to an institution because it is a matter of attitude to a large part in my opinion.

Formal beurocratic learning is well suited for basic knowledge and skills but less so for more personal and esoteric stuff like learning to understand yourself as a person or relationships, etc. Ideally, you are taught to educate yourself and be curious about the world in addition to just school. 

[Twentyfirst]

It's for normal people who need to find something to keep busy with or don't know how to forge their own path

If you are above normal it's a prison that will do more harm than good

Especially now in the digital information age with AI 

[Ulax]

@NightHawkBuzz Too black and white of an argument imo.

School teaches kids many valuable things imo. But also leaves out various valuable things.

I think a nuanced perspective is more accurate.

For example, if school hadn’t taught you how to read or write you would struggle much more to access most truths you have come across independently.

Edited March 26 by Ulax

[Carl-Richard]

I learned a lot of systems thinking, general philosophy, context & construct awareness and holistic thinking from my degrees in psychology (and more specifically how emotions work, a lot about how the mind works, how health works, how the physical relates to the mental, etc.). It confirmed a lot of what Leo teaches.

And it's not like I only learned these things indirectly through some second-order interpretation (although that also happened); these terms I mentioned are either literally used or clearly inferred. It's not like Leo invented these things or that it's something you have to learn all on your own (although that is often true).

People have thought out these things before you, and the higher up you go in academia, the higher you climb in the education system, the more advanced the thinkers become, and you might run into something really profound.

Edited March 27 by Carl-Richard

[Aaron p]

I have on thing to say, thank god for Leo gura and actualized.org forum. This is a blessing of 1000 schooling years teaching me wisdom, holism, true intelligence, power, skillful epistemology, logic, art, philosophy, EVERYTHING. 

Thank God.