Why do some people go batshit crazy on 5meo ?

[Loveeee]

Trashing around etc, when 5meo is supposed to be pure consciousness, not visions or mind stuff

Is that because they can't handle that level of consciousness ? How does your typical trip goes ? 

[integration journey]

Personally, on 5meo I felt like my sense of identity was expanding so much and since I’m not used to that expanded sense of self, it tends to become uncomfortable if you don’t completely let go. 

[Leo Gura]

Probably because that's what they see others doing, and shamans normalize this sort of behavior.

Also the doses used are too high for newbies.

Edited January 28 by Leo Gura

[OBEler]

@Loveeee it's maybe they want to stop during a trip because they feel overwhelmed but they realize they can't stop this stuff. 

[The Crocodile]

Ego coopting.

[Holymoly]

Is there a difference between thrashing around and going into symmetrical movement? Like are you supposed to stay still I cannot seem to sit still but the symmetrical movements and vocalization is spontaneous. Also is this experience ever not overwhelming? Is it a sign of a lack of preparation or is this just how it is at the beginning I’ve probably done about 5 proper trips with it

[OBEler]

@Holymoly you get overwhelmed every time?

[Yimpa]

 

 

[Verg0]

18 hours ago, Holymoly said:

Is there a difference between thrashing around and going into symmetrical movement? Like are you supposed to stay still I cannot seem to sit still but the symmetrical movements and vocalization is spontaneous. Also is this experience ever not overwhelming? Is it a sign of a lack of preparation or is this just how it is at the beginning I’ve probably done about 5 proper trips with it

Yes there's definitely a difference.  

I guess there's no right and wrong here. 

[Verg0]

I've always wondered why people do that kind of stuff. I've always been lying down & saying very still throughout my experiences. 

I might have to do with an inability to surrender, facing resistance or just unconsciously not being ready to confront these layers of consciousness.