YOUR LEADER IS A CLOWN

[Aaron p]

Actually I'm changing sides. Boo leo

[Schizophonia]

41 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I didn’t interpret it that way, the reason I didn’t reply to that part, I wanted to say it sounds tasty, is because I didn’t wanna risk derailing the thread 

Dw i don’t reproach you anything, it just popped in my head.

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

Dw i don’t reproach you anything, it just popped in my head.

👍🏻

[Emerald]

2 hours ago, How to be wise said:

@Emerald You’ve been here for quite a number of years, why haven’t you been a mod yet? 

I tend to be kind of on and off on here over the years, and just come back when it resonates.

So, I don't really want any responsibilities on here.

I just come here to get into little intellectual debates for fun.

[Emerald]

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Your “goofing around” is spitting wisdom😎

Thank you

It helps me keep my sword sharp.

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, Rishabh R said:

@Leo Gura I talked to him over discord and I told that I was reading a popular self-help book. He told that all those books are garbage and find someone else to help me. Secondly, his approach to game felt narcissistic with only focus on oneself. Dear Leo I respect you , even though I have been hurt by you occassionally in the past but I was wondering why you didn't take him down as a mod.

Because I knew he would be upset by that so I was hoping to give him time to correct his behavior. I tried to guide him with feedback but he was not open to it.

I wanted to handle the situation without losing him. I almost succeeded in that because he was open to stepping down earlier this month without being upset about it.

3 hours ago, trenton said:

@Leo Gura I'm curious about this statement. Where would you place me in terms of the maturity, wisdom, and level of development compared to the rest of the forum?

Am I less mature because of the crazy posts around my mental health I made? Am I more mature because I am respectful and I don't attack other members while being willing to confront inner demons to transform myself? Am I about average for this forum with pros and cons?

Why would you place me there and where can I most grow? How much would I need to change to become a mod?

Given my strengths and weaknesses I'm guessing you think I'm about average. That would probably make me around stage green.

I don't know you well enough to make such a deep assessment.

Keep in mind that while you guys know me very well, I hardly know most of you. There are hundreds of people here and it's hard to keep track of everyone. People come and go, usernames change, fake identities are used, etc. I have very little information about most of you and I don't read and remember all your posts.

2 hours ago, Francis777 said:

@Leo Gura Can I ask what qualities @NoSelfSelf  demonstrated to you that made you think he was fit to moderate in the first place?

How different was his initial character than to what is shown here? Because his toxicity has been evident to me since the day I signed up on this forum and I'm not just saying that because of my own personal run in's with him. 

What did you see in him that you no longer do?

I was contemplating that last night. Honestly, I don't recall anymore. I selected him a long time ago and I couldn't remember why. But I remember him being much more grounded and more mature back then. Somehow over the years the frog slowly got boiled and even though I smelled that something was off about him, I also give mods more of the benefit of the doubt and leeway because they do a lot of thankless work and I don't like just demoting them out of the blue because that is hurtful.

In reteospect I should have been more decisive about his odd behavior. Sometimes I see odd behavior in people here and I try to just let it go, so that I am not too controlling or authoritarian. But this can backfire as things can fester and then blow up.

Edited Monday at 10:33 PM by Leo Gura

[Ulax]

Nice. That dude should have been demoted from being a mod years ago.

[Ulax]

14 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Sugarcoat is the only person that i respect on here all others just go fuck yourself

🤣

Dude went out swinging 🤣

[UnbornTao]

2 hours ago, Aaron p said:

 

"Let me tell you, folks, I’m the best clown. Nobody clowns like me. Some people say, ‘Oh, Trump, you’re a businessman, you’re a president.’ No, no. I’m a world-class clown, okay? The best. I put on the big red nose, I do the honk-honk—nobody honks better than me. Some people try, sad people, very low-energy clowns, but they don’t have what I have. I’ve got the biggest shoes, the biggest. You wouldn’t believe it. People come up to me, tears in their eyes, and they say, ‘Sir, you’re the greatest clown of all time.’ And I am. It’s true. I juggle, I do the balloon animals, I even ran the whole circus for four years—greatest circus in history, by the way. Everybody loved it. The ratings? Through the roof. The people loved it, the media hated it—fake news! But they watched, believe me. They couldn’t look away. So yeah, I’m the best clown, and frankly, it’s not even close. Sad!"

Courtesy of GPT.

[ryandesreu]

This is such an insult to clowns.

Honestly, listening to this man ramble incoherently makes me wish that I were the one shot in the ear.

[AION]

[CARDOZZO]

I appreciate your love.

I am just working like a freak to master survival. My time is very limited to be around, sorry 

I will keep an eye on you, humans.

[Aaron p]

I am not a human

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, Davino said:

I would also vote for Emerald as a mod.

Yes, and you too.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I try to select the most mature and wise people that I see here. But over years their behavior can also change, as was the case with NoSelfSelf. His behavior seemed to devolve over the years, or maybe I just didn't know him well enough from the start. Frankly his case is so rare I've barely had to deal with something like this before. I almost never feel a need to demote a Mod. Usually Mods leave on their own because they have other stuff going on outside the forum that is more important.

I am not sure if you already vet this way - perhaps a video call with potential mods?

Text is quite deceiving: it gives one time to formulate & craft an answer.

It can be a false projection of someone's true nature. A nice little virtual avatar to hide behind.

Tone, facial expression, eye contact, body language. 

On the fly expression conveys so much when you can read it 

Good way to vet others.

But you don't seem to have a chronic issue with mods behaving poorly so this method may not be needed 

[Thought Art]

@Natasha Tori Maru Good points but a mod for a forum can be based on how they interact on the forum. 

[MarkKol]

This is not a dig or an exaggeration, but I never understand a single thing he said, not one sentence, I think Gödel was easier to understand.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Natasha Tori Maru Good points but a mod for a forum can be based on how they interact on the forum. 

I partially agree, I am addressing behaviors that appear to go unnoticed that manifest later.

Behaviors that aren't conveyed through this medium

You can detect far more regarding someone's integrity through face to face / video interaction 

[Aaron p]

7 hours ago, MarkKol said:

This is not a dig or an exaggeration, but I never understand a single thing he said, not one sentence, I think Gödel was easier to understand.

Leo is easy to understand. I sense the source of your confusion (or anybody's confusion experiencing this) could be as a result of an overly ideological style of learning. The appropriate way to learn from anybody is to break down every single thing they say and rebuild it as your own, testing everything against reality in case the person you got it from is inaccurate in any respect. Of course you then need to be mindful that you might be the person who is inaccurate too.

Edited yesterday at 10:32 AM by Aaron p

[gambler]

44 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

Leo is easy to understand. I sense the source of your confusion (or anybody's confusion experiencing this) could be as a result of an overly ideological style of learning. The appropriate way to learn from anybody is to break down every single thing they say and rebuild it as your own, testing everything against reality in case the person you got it from is inaccurate in any respect. Of course you then need to be mindful that you might be the person who is inaccurate too.

He’s talking about the mod who got demoted, not Leo.