New Ralston Interview

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Lyubov said:

They are the result of the belief behind them which is 100% your choice but most people aren’t digging deep enough to actually see how their beliefs are forming their very reality.

Yes, but is it a belief to think that I'm going to die? That tomorrow they can tell me that I have brain cancer and I'm going to lose all my faculties, go crazy and die in extreme pain? It's reality, life is absolutely uncertain, certainty is an illusion. The abyss of death opens before us, right now, and we know absolutely nothing, all we think we know are illusions to provide stability. The fear of death is primordial, it's genetically encoded, its not beliefs, there are deep mechanisms that form this experience. All the others fears, that maybe are activated by beliefs, are variations of the primordial fear, the death. Religion is just a mental strategy to handle that fear. Enlightenment is the only way to really overcome it

Edited Monday at 10:33 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

reflecting on the cheap lobotomizing self-help that proposes that suffering is caused by thought, don't think, there is no suffering: tadah! buy my book! give me money!

let's see...what happens if you choose your partner with whom you share your life based unconsciously on the social status that person provides you, or out of fear and insecurity of a person with low self-esteem that deep down you despise? tadah! don't you think about it, that's it! give me fentanyl! tadah! 

No, the only way is the real understanding of the human structure, and anything else are bullshit, junk food 

[UnbornTao]

@Breakingthewall - "But but but..."

- "No butts."

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

@Breakingthewall - "But but but..."

- "No butts."

 

 

What do you mean?

[UnbornTao]

@Breakingthewall That the world of being at the effect of suffering is simply not true.

[Breakingthewall]

44 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

@Breakingthewall That the world of being at the effect of suffering is simply not true.

Suffering is the deviation of the truth, and this is the norm

[Princess Arabia]

15 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Enlightenment is the only way to really overcome it

This is the delusion. What you said in the whole comment is so....but....it's all just an appearance of such. There's actually no one who is fearful or afraid to die or that needs to do something to get over anything. Enlightenment is also just another idea of the structural 'me' that thinks it's someone that needs to be enlightened in order to stop something that's not happening in the first place. Enlightened or not makes no difference because nothing is really happening to the person. It's all empty and void of any real substance including this statement. It didn't even matter if I made this statement or not because it wouldn't change anything, the only thing that changed was there were words on a computer screen that was typed. 

[Princess Arabia]

21 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Suffering is the deviation of the truth, and this is the norm

Suffering is just suffering. The person is what gives meaning to that energy and attaches itself to it as it attaches itself to everything. There is a person here who suffers, it says. Yes, it suffers but only it's own apparent self identification. A table doesn't suffer because it doesn't identify as a person. A person is no different than a table because there's no separation. The difference is energetic and that's the marvel and the mystique of this, whatever it is. I'm not diminishing anyone's suffering, I suffer but it still doesn't mean it's not illusory and not really happening to anyone. When I'm suffering I suffer. That's it. It's not from deviation of truth but by feeling as if I'm an actual person in a body that has a life. Take that away, and there's just the suffering energy appearing without a person attached to that suffering. No enlightenment is needed for that not to happen because it's already not happening.

Edited Tuesday at 01:18 PM by Princess Arabia

[Breakingthewall]

32 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not diminishing anyone's suffering, I suffer but it still doesn't mean it's not illusory and not really happening to anyone

And? Suffering exist and I prefer to find the way to dissolve it. I don't care if I exist or not, that different is just a difference that the mind does, but the suffering is real since it is. 

For example, if a piece of iron is stuck in your leg, what would you do, say that the leg and the iron are illusory and let it stay in your leg until it's rotten or removing the iron and heal the wound? Whether they are illusory or not is a differentiation, any differentiation is conceptual, you can forget it and live.

Edited Tuesday at 01:49 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

43 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What you said in the whole comment is so....but....it's all just an appearance of such.

Don't you realize that "appearance" means something in opposition to another idea that is "real"? This mental structure closes, and ultimately means nothing, all the ideas happens in the reality, and the idea "appearance" is just another idea

Edited Tuesday at 01:51 PM by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

if a piece of iron is stuck in your leg, what would you do, say that the leg and the iron are illusory and let it stay in your leg

That is actual and tangible. I never said the world was an illusion or that things are illusory. I'm eating an apple right now while typing this. That is actually happening, well, apparently, but it's not illusory. The only illusion is me thinking I'm someone that's eating an apple. The eating of an apple is all that's happening and so is piece of iron that's stuck in a leg. That's not the illusion. The illusion is the person thinking that that piece of iron is stuck in their leg and they will feel the pain of that occurrence to be theirs. It's just a leg and a piece of iron that's stuck in it. The only reason I feel that pain is because I've identified with this body and so anything that happens to it I claim. Whether it's physical pain or suffering. Do you know there are people out there who can't feel pain. Why do you think that is.

Edited Tuesday at 02:52 PM by Princess Arabia

[An young being]

As long as there is karma, which is action done with a selfish intent, there exists suffering.

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, An young being said:

As long as there is karma, which is action done with a selfish intent, there exists suffering.

Exactly, and life is karma 

[An young being]

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Exactly, and life is karma 

Exactly, and we have the choice to reduce suffering to a considerable extent by trying to be less selfish, less egoistic and less focused towards pleasures of the senses. There is no need to escape suffering entirely. It exists for a beautiful purpose called living. It becomes a problem only when we can't tolerate suffering, and we curse life and living.

[Breakingthewall]

12 hours ago, An young being said:

Exactly, and we have the choice to reduce suffering to a considerable extent by trying to be less selfish, less egoistic and less focused towards pleasures of the senses. There is no need to escape suffering entirely. It exists for a beautiful purpose called living. It becomes a problem only when we can't tolerate suffering, and we curse life and living.

Yes, but ultimately any human life is unfulfilling if it is not enlightenment. It can be nice and beautiful but deep down there is always a lack.

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, but ultimately any human life is unfulfilling if it is not enlightenment. It can be nice and beautiful but deep down there is always a lack.

Yes.

On the pain thing i wouldn't call it suffering until it becomes chronic pain.  Chronic pain is a form of suffering because you're constantly dealing with it.  Now whether you are suffering existentially is another matter but all of us can get frustrated with anything chronic.  It's how we choose to rise above this suffering. 

 

Awakening resolves all of this.

Edited Wednesday at 05:45 AM by Inliytened1

[An young being]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, but ultimately any human life is unfulfilling if it is not enlightenment. It can be nice and beautiful but deep down there is always a lack.

I would say enlightenment's main effect is contentment, and if people are already content with life and accept the suffering associated with it, and are aligned with life's higher values, there's no need to pursue a special thing called enlightenment or awakening.

[An young being]

But most people are not contented with life, and hence at some point, they break inside because of suffering that is beyond their tolerance level and hence pursue spirituality to end it once and for all.

Edited Wednesday at 08:22 AM by An young being

[Inliytened1]

42 minutes ago, An young being said:

But most people are not contented with life, and hence at some point, they break inside because of suffering that is beyond their tolerance level and hence pursue spirituality to end it once and for all.

It's not worth it.   Its just a dream.

[An young being]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

It's not worth it.   Its just a dream.

Hmm