New Ralston Interview

[Breakingthewall]

30 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

My theory on this is that People want Intensity in their Lives, something that makes their hearts beat faster, and they feel "ALIVE", they will do most anything to have this feeling, so for most its much easier to produce Suffering in their lives than Bliss so they do that just to feel Alive, its crazy stupid but this is my take on it, its super Unconscious but a survival instinct of sorts, very low level of living life!!

It's not crazy or stupid, It is a vibration that arises from the profound disharmony of their lives, which comes from the absolutely disharmonious environment in which they have lived since birth. Their suffering, or rather, our suffering, is absolutely legitimate. Understanding the depth of the anxious vibration, its cause and its functioning and achieving equalization is a very difficult art.

Simplifying, as self-help says: you suffer because you think, don't think! tadah!!... well, it's what I would call stupidity taken to the level of dogma.

[Lyubov]

9 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The problem with this type of classic self-help is that people believe this: you are causing your suffering, stop doing it! tadah! and they never go deeper into themselves, they remain isolated, far from their truth, incapable of creating deep relationships, lobotomized, like Ralston.

You make a good point. I am not familiar with this guys work or methods. I do know stopping it required for me to look inward and listen to myself and see where my beliefs were out of alignment and gently reengineering them. Understanding is very important and then comes acceptance. So I think maybe he would agree, I don’t know if he is saying to just become conscious of the mind and cut it out. 

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's not crazy or stupid, It is a vibration that arises from the profound disharmony of their lives, which comes from the absolutely disharmonious environment in which they have lived since birth. Their suffering, or rather, our suffering, is absolutely legitimate. Understanding the depth of the anxious vibration, its cause and its functioning and achieving equalization is a very difficult art.

Simplifying, as self-help says: you suffer because you think, don't think! tadah!!... well, it's what I would call stupidity taken to the level of dogma.

Disharmony is the same as saying one is Unconscious.. We live in an information world, the information is available for one to not suffer, there are methods available for one to learn so they don't suffer, many do not go this route because it takes work, much easier to stay in the suffering you already know than venture onwards to high depths of unknown but overall better lives of Wellbeing.

This is classical staying in what You know mode, which is a survival instinct, its building up walls of self protection, even though you are suffering via those built walls you stay there because its safe.. Its like never planting the seed and watering it, keeping the seed in your hand and looking at it, its full of potential but you don't want the work of water it, taking care of it so it flowers up one day... Many ppl live this way, that is their Unconscious choice, which causes the disharmony and suffering, whether it is Unconscious or Conscious its still a choice...

Again, unless one is being physically or mental tortured by an outside source, which the majority of ppl are not, then the choice is available to them, they just don't make that choice....

[Breakingthewall]

26 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

see where my beliefs were

For me they are more than beliefs, they are real energy patterns formed layer upon layer by fear that manifest as a constant flow of what we call suffering that takes the form of negative thoughts.

Thought is the consequence, not the cause. You cannot focus on the consequence without understanding and looking directly at the cause. Facing your primal fear is not a trivial thing, saying that people are stupid for thinking negative is having a very superficial understanding.

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

For me they are more than beliefs, they are real energy patterns formed layer upon layer by fear that manifest as a constant flow of what we call suffering that takes the form of negative thoughts.

Thought is the consequence, not the cause. You cannot focus on the consequence without understanding and looking directly at the cause. Facing your primal fear is not a trivial thing, saying that people are stupid for thinking negative is having a very superficial understanding.

What Fear is there today? We live in the most secure time ever, there is more food security, bodily security, mental security than ever before, I cannot imagine what it was like for previous generations from hundreds of years ago, they must of been tough for sure, but we are here in the Best time ever, now I see lots of crap happening everyday, lots of fuck ups and how things are going wrong, but that is just bad planning, bad set up, unawareness, ppl getting hooked or addicted to stupid things they know will lead them down the road of suffering..

Fear is also a choice, Danger is real for sure, but Fear like Suffering is a choice...Ppl are making the worst choices now, but all is available to them all the information, methods, resources to live high quality lives, but they stay in their fear and suffering as a choice..

[Hojo]

I beleive what Jesus is saying as you can get rid of your own suffering but you will still suffer the collective karma which is how everyone else acts. 

 

Edited Monday at 03:42 PM by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

We live in the most secure time ever,

Don't you understand the depth of fear? We have been raised in absolute terror, reality is impermanent, and we have been raised for permanence. In addition, we have genetics that make us tribal beings, and the inconsistency of the group today has created layers and layers of fear of rejection. Looking all this in the face is not easy, they are real energy barriers, much deeper than they seem. 

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Don't you understand the depth of fear? We have been raised in absolute terror, reality is impermanent, and we have been raised for permanence. In addition, we have genetics that make us tribal beings, and the inconsistency of the group today has created layers and layers of fear of rejection. Looking all this in the face is not easy, they are real energy barriers, much deeper than they seem. 

Wat I'm saying is that generations ago they were too concerned with survival, tending to crops, finding food, secure shelter, and such things to get so trapped and identified with their Mind thinking ideological BS, that they had little fear of anything, when Your busy in life, really doing something worthwhile to You there is no Fear, but when Your Mind identified, everything outside of You is the most important thing, your phone, tik tok, outside information sites like news, entertainment, books/learning etc, then your trapped in garbage that is not even original too You.. Your Mind, everyone's Mind is just a Garbage bin, You have no choice of the Content of this Garbage Bin, but You have the Choice as to identify with it or not, that information is out there for ppl to read and learn about but they don't, hence they live in Fear and Suffering for the most part...

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

 

People in old times suffer much less than today, less depression and neurosis, the people in the tribes without contact with civilization use to be happy, even they have a hard live and death is everywhere, they are close the life, but we are isolated in a bubble and this produce neurosis. It's very difficult getting out of there, and people around are very unconscious, then you get in a maze very difficult to understand full of disharnonic vibration. Penetration is needed to get out of that maze, but there is no choice, our circumstance is what is, with advantages and disadvantages 

Edited Monday at 03:58 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

11 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Your busy in life, really doing something worthwhile to You there is no Fear

There is not unconscious fear to death and rejection? Are you sure?

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

People in old times suffer much less than today, less depression and neurosis, the people in the tribes without contact with civilization use to be happy, even they have a hard live and death is everywhere, they are close the life, but we are isolated in a bubble and this produce neurosis. It's very difficult getting out of there, and people around are very unconscious, then you get in a maze very difficult to understand full of disharnonic vibration. Penetration is needed to get out of that maze, but there is no choice, our circumstance is what is, with advantages and disadvantages 

Yes, but there is way of out the suffering, that is what the methods shared are there for.. Its for Householders, ppl that cannot commit full time to their Sadhana and work with family responsibility and such... If one can even learn a bit of each of these, their suffering will decrease and eventually not arise.. Acceptance of What is, even 50% will take most suffering away.. Acceptance is not about Liking what is, its just a simple exercise of this is the way it is and not stressing about it, when we stop the stress response from happening (fight/flight) then fear will not arise at all.. Live in the NOW, being present moment Aware is crucial, use the past to get wise from not wounded, yes it takes work, this is dissolving the karma, unwinding it, via that and the previous one you cannot Suffer!  Via these two the Ability to Respond arises in a strong way, this is Free Will being Exposed to You, then You can determine how to be within Yourself, then life opens up to new and more empowering Potentials!

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

There is not unconscious fear to death and rejection? Are you sure?

Not if it doesn't arise in Your Consciousness, but one can use the fact that one day they will die Bodily, and make it an empowerment by not wasting time on stupid things, expediting things and making only the important things to You primary, not flipping around on phones scrolling all day thru social media BS and other such activities that lead to know where fast!!

[Breakingthewall]

@Ishanga I'm talking about primal fear to death and rejection. Most of people are totally unconscious of the depth of their fear, there are very sophisticated mental processes to avoid facing it. The only real way is enlightenment, go through the human experience, expand the mind and realizing that there is not death. The other way is religion, that is better than absolute terror, but it's still fear and suffering in some extent 

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Not if it doesn't arise in Your Consciousness

It's unconscious, believe me. The field of conciousness is not the reality, there is unconscious reality 

 

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

by not wasting time on stupid things, expediting things and making only the important things to You primary, not flipping around on phones scrolling all day thru social media BS and other such activities that lead to know where fast!

I my opinion it's irrelevant. You could be a surgeon that cure cancer who save lifes every day and have unconscious terror. People live with that , it's normal, the mind is smart and bury it. The only exit is enlightenment, and almost nobody in the entire world is enlightened 

Edited Monday at 04:12 PM by Breakingthewall

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Ishanga I'm talking about primal fear to death and rejection. Most of people are totally unconscious of the depth of their fear, there are very sophisticated mental processes to avoid facing it. The only real way is enlightenment, go through the human experience, expand the mind and realizing that there is not death. The other way is religion, that is better than absolute terror, but it's still fear and suffering in some extent 

It's unconscious, believe me. The field of conciousness is not the reality, there is unconscious reality 

 

I my opinion it's irrelevant. You could be a surgeon that cure cancer who save lifes every day and have unconscious terror. People live with that , it's normal, the mind is smart and bury it. The only exit is enlightenment, and almost nobody in the entire world is enlightened 

There's levels to it obviously, don't even think of Enlightenment if Your not already naturally at Ease and in Peaceful Experience regularly, then when that is established Enlightenment is in reach, otherwise if Your up and down emotionally, suffering one day, manic the next, fine the day after that forget it, any sort of Fear response then forget it, Enlightenment is not in your future if You don't take care of the basics.. 

What I described as ways to establish this foundation, bring Your inner nature too Ease, then go from there...

[gettoefl]

I suffer because I look at the world as the cause of everything rather than the effect of what I have done.

Suffering is trying to teach me this so that I will go in and fix it.

I need to look at what my world is showing me and take that as my cue for what to fix.

When I see fear everywhere, I go in heal it and then I walk fearlessly into the lion's den and transmute every scrap of fear.

This is the end of fear as I know it.

Fear in fact all suffering is ignorance.

I am untouchable.

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Your up and down emotionally, suffering one day, manic the next

Sure, and if you are schizophrenic even worse. I speak of a stable superficial state but of deep energetic structures of fear and distortion. Real penetration is required, not mental. Deep meditation, psychedelics for me have been very useful. I am not talking about understanding with the logical mind, I am talking about direct vision. This process leads little by little to lower levels of suffering and eventually to moments of complete enlightenment, which is momentary. I suppose there are people who are in a permanent state of enlightenment, although it seems strange to me to operate in that way. Enlightenment happens in total absence of fear, fear is the door. Fear takes many different forms.

[CoolDreamThanks]

Loved the intro already! Controool your mind! 😁🖤 That’s so important ☺️

[UnbornTao]

Half of the thread is about defending and justifying the "buts" that Peter's referring to.  

Edited Monday at 06:06 PM by UnbornTao

[Lyubov]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

For me they are more than beliefs, they are real energy patterns formed layer upon layer by fear that manifest as a constant flow of what we call suffering that takes the form of negative thoughts.

Thought is the consequence, not the cause. You cannot focus on the consequence without understanding and looking directly at the cause. Facing your primal fear is not a trivial thing, saying that people are stupid for thinking negative is having a very superficial understanding.

You see where we would probably differ in our experience or perspective is that what I’ve discovered is that all emotions culminate in belief. Emotions / feelings only form due to the beliefs behind them, otherwise it’s just flow, peace and presence. Now I’m not saying that’s a bad thing to create emotions nor that the higher self doesn’t use emotions sometimes because certain emotions are useful in certain situations and it’s appropriate and in harmony and flow to create for example anger if you need to defend yourself in certain situations. The emotions and fear are only there because it has a belief behind it. I’ve not found fear or any emotion to exist in a vacuum or as energy on its own. They are the result of the belief behind them which is 100% your choice but most people aren’t digging deep enough to actually see how their beliefs are forming their very reality. The emotion / suffering is an alarm telling you your perspective is out of alignment with truth. Through self inquiry I’ve found these beliefs can be very overarching and general, a sort of unresolved spiritual lesson or limitation placed on oneself for a personal reason. For example most depression culminates in the belief of oneself being limited and lacking value. There is a personal story that leads to this belief but it culminates with he same for basically everyone creating depression for themselves. They are (choosing to be) disconnected from their true divinity and are using a past experience as evidence to try and prove a lie, it’s like a self fulfilling prophecy. Why they choose that is up for discussion, out of ignorance or immaturity ir a child like perspective on avoiding responsibility in life. I agree that thought is one of the consequence as well since it’s sort of the chatter on top, surface layer, but bellow that is the belief which is like the core operating system, the emotion and thoughts all come from the belief at the core. 

Edited Monday at 07:01 PM by Lyubov

[RightHand]

Did Mr. Peter become a shitposter after his last super awakening? 

 

 

 

Did he meet the Alien Mouse? 🐀 

 

Edited Monday at 07:17 PM by RightHand