Does god want to un-see oneness?

[Fran11]

On 27/1/2025 at 9:03 PM, Infinite Tsukuyomi said:

 *My answer to your question is that the loneliness is ego.

I come to the same conclusion when I'm sober.

But in practice when I go really deep into god-realizarion that explaination is seen as a fantasy and doesn't make sense in that state.

There are levels of conciousness where material life simply loses all sense and meaning.  

 

[Fran11]

To those who says I'm coming from ego consider:

If life as a human feels so heavenly when you are enlightened, then why very advanced masters talk about MahaSamadhi or stopping reincarnating? 

That's because the meaninglesness is existencial and at that levels of conciousnes you don enjoy human life.

Yes, you enjoy conciousnes if you are 100% free of ego, but not human life.

 

 

Edited January 29 by Fran11

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, Fran11 said:

To those who says I'm coming from ego consider:

If life as a human feels so heavenly when you are enlightened, then why very advanced masters talk about MahaSamadhi or stopping reincarnating? 

That's because the meaninglesness is existencial and at that levels of conciousnes you don enjoy human life.

Yes, you enjoy conciousnes if you are 100% of ego, but not human life.

 

 

This is the Ultimate Okay, and when one comes to that place of Experience and Realization then they can choose what is next for them, Mahasamahdi or stay here and function maybe to help the Society or something else, play the game, see what happens or whatever, but the point is that everything is now available to You, You can create consciously the karma so that You stay on, or just dissolve away..

Sadhguru's wife did this, she Mahasamadhi because she thought that now everything is perfect and she didn't want it too change, so she made the choice, that is how I understand it, he tried to talk here down as they had a daughter that was young and it was nearing the end of the consecration of the Dylanalinga temple at his Ashram in India, as a Husband he said he was Sad but as her Guru he was extremely proud of Her...

 

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Sadhguru's wife did this, she Mahasamadhi because she thought that now everything is perfect and she didn't want it too change,

Sure, and she left a daughter with 3 years old without mother. Seem very enlightened.

[Ishanga]

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, and she left a daughter with 3 years old without mother. Seem very enlightened.

Well I think she left her in good hands and I think the Daughter is doing Great!!!

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Well I think she left her in good hands and I think the Daughter is doing Great!!!

Sure, with 30 years old and a 3 years old daughter, mashamadi. People who do that are old monks, not young mothers

Edited January 29 by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

On 1/26/2025 at 3:27 PM, Fran11 said:

Whenever I have a drip trip a reach a point in which i feel i can't enjoy human life at that level of awakening and wamt to un-see oneness.

One could argue that is the ego whom resists. But it feels moxe existencial than just ego. If as if reality itself was designed to keep that secret and you feel you broke reality by being concious of how you are imagining everything.

Is the loneliness existential or just ego? 

 

The line between ego and God is an illusion...so when we awake sometimes the ego can be completely gone other times it's intact.   It really breaks down in the end because of Oneness itself. 

You're in a specific state of Consciousness right now and when you awaken that state can change but whether or not the sense of self is still there - that line can get blurry because you are Awareness itself.  You are all states of Consciousness.   

But to answer your main question yes - God seeks to undo Oneness with the dream. He is dividing and masterfully separating when losing himself inside of a dream.

[tuku747]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

The line between ego and God is an illusion...so when we awake sometimes the ego can be completely gone other times it's intact.   It really breaks down in the end because of Oneness itself. 

You're in a specific state of Consciousness right now and when you awaken that state can change but whether or not the sense of self is still there - that line can get blurry because you are Awareness itself.  You are all states of Consciousness.   

But to answer your main question yes - God seeks to undo Oneness with the dream. He is dividing and masterfully separating when losing himself inside of a dream.

aka undergoing mitosis

[The Crocodile]

@Breakingthewall Do you think sadhguru killed her?

[The Crocodile]

@Fran11 I wouldn't say you are coming from ego, I would say you are coming from the perspective caused by a drug experience which is necessarily impermanent because it's just a drug experience. If you worked up to that on your own worked hardware then the duality you're creating between an impersonal inhuman "oneness" and then "the human dream" would collapse.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, The Crocodile said:

@Breakingthewall Do you think sadhguru killed her?

Probably not, but I'm sure that she didn't do mashamadi. Maybe she committed suicide and sadhguru thought that it would be a big stain and he said that was mashamadi. He burned the body before the autopsy. In addition the people who do mashamadi in India are not burned are buried. 

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

The line between ego and God is an illusion...so when we awake sometimes the ego can be completely gone other times it's intact.   It really breaks down in the end because of Oneness itself. 

You're in a specific state of Consciousness right now and when you awaken that state can change but whether or not the sense of self is still there - that line can get blurry because you are Awareness itself.  You are all states of Consciousness.   

But to answer your main question yes - God seeks to undo Oneness with the dream. He is dividing and masterfully separating when losing himself inside of a dream.

Enlightenment is just being open to the substance of reality and with knowing nothing, knowing everything, because any knowing is being, and being is the divine. The divine is the only thing that you could know, the absolute truth, and that truth is in your heart and is manifested in the empty mind. Your logical mind is inside of the truth, is an arising, means absolutely nothing. The only meaning is existence, and existence is divine, is the pure light, and you as a human can be open to it. that's why they say enlightenment 

Edited January 29 by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Enlightenment is just being open to the substance of reality and with knowing nothing, knowing everything, because any knowing is being, and being is the divine. The divine is the only thing that you could know, the absolute truth, and that truth is in your heart and is manifested in the empty mind. Your logical mind is inside of the truth, is an arising, means absolutely nothing. The only meaning is existence, and existence is divine, is the pure light, and you as a human can be open to it. that's why they say enlightenment 

Beautiful brother ❤️