Does god want to un-see oneness?

[Fran11]

4 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

If awakening makes you laugh your socks off, then it's definitely awakening 🤣🤣🤣

You've seen nothing

[TruthFreedom]

1 minute ago, Fran11 said:

You've seen nothing

Exactly, and it was hilarious 😂 

[Fran11]

@Leo Gura Thoughts on this topic? 

[Hojo]

If you like your life it sucks if you hate your life or its neutral its good.

You might not have done the necessary suffering. The release from the mental suffering will make you explode into infinite happiness. The more you suffer the greater the explosion. There is no you at the top its just infinite creative power unleashing. You wouldnt have time to say this sucks.

It should be like this

not like this

if you feel like the balloon after you popped too early.

Edited Monday at 12:08 AM by Hojo

[tuku747]

If you think all an Infinite Mind can contain is one perspective you've got another thing coming. 

The problem is you're not dreaming big enough. That's why you're obsessed with your solipistic bubble, which will only be real for as long as you insist it is. And yes, there you will be all alone, but that's only because you chose to move away from the others in denying their uniqueness.

People act like the only thing God can't do is experience another sovereign being. But God has always been other to itself. It's a hall of mirrors, and the reflections are distorted through time. The differences are real, any fool off the street can tell you that. The hallmark of an Infinite Creator is just that; infinite variety.

 

[The Crocodile]

Reality is undefined.

[Fran11]

It goes beyond solipsism. I feel relity isnt desing to be enjoyed when you are aware of how you are constructing everything.

At least thats where im now but i know further integration will allow me to be at peace with these states.

[Lyubov]

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Why did You edit Your first response?

I don’t remember. It probably wasn’t written how I wanted it to be.

[The Crocodile]

@Fran11 For now you can alleviate the existential fear with a sense of humor.

[Fran11]

It feels you are so powerful that theres nothing else to do but to forget it

[Lyubov]

17 minutes ago, Fran11 said:

It feels you are so powerful that theres nothing else to do but to forget it

That doesn’t make any sense and it’s precisely why you suffer. You say you’re god but then you create a painful emotion from a perceived limitation that you choose to place on yourself. God is limitless and boundless and never has nothing else to do, but always something to do, even if it’s nothing. Becoming god means being responsible and that means being responsible for what you choose to make of your experience. You’re choosing to see things this way whereas I am choosing to see it the opposite way, I feel so powerful that there’s limitless potential for me to do everything, other than forget, because why would I want to limit myself by forgetting I’m god?

Edited Monday at 01:22 AM by Lyubov

[The Crocodile]

19 minutes ago, Fran11 said:

It feels you are so powerful that theres nothing else to do but to forget it

Yeah, well, if it was powerful enough it would become permanent and then it would be a realization rather than an experience.

[The Crocodile]

[WelcometoReality]

7 hours ago, Fran11 said:

One could argue that is the ego whom resists. But it feels moxe existencial than just ego. If as if reality itself was designed to keep that secret and you feel you broke reality by being concious of how you are imagining everything.

Is the loneliness existential or just ego? 

Does the resistances come from the body?

If not where do they sit?

Aloneness is.. but inquire into all resistances. They come and go.

[Exystem]

@Fran11

I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, kinda sucks. That's why I am not so much into critical doses of psychedelics anymore. I had these several times. I have no solution for it. It's like there is this giant cake of consciousness and then you eat it all at once, feels great but then you are kinda like "damn ok, now the cake is gone."

(Like: "Ok, of course Buddha has already reached enlightenment and it it's always been me again, like of course! So what can buddha do now? There's nobody to teach and nobody to awaken, so what else to do if not sleepwalking again, otherwise there is literaly no reality whatsoever?!")

And you realize the only way to get a cake again is to traumatize yourself into this limited reality where can start all over again, baking the cake from your own flesh to eat it another time, this time more slowly maybe. At least That's the "conclusion" I had.

I began to love my insufficiencies, limitations, problems and the slowness of this reality more. I don't want instant manifestation, actually. But maybe that's still ego. At least now I am fine with that, since I have no hurries to trancend it anymore.

Actually it's so obvious. If reality is perfect, it's perfect now. And there is a reason why "we" experience limited reality now.  It's because it's perfect. If god wanted to be in god mode, it would be in god mode. You instantly manifested a reality where you believe you can't instantly manifest a reality,  you want a reality where you can experience not wanting a reality, and it must be that way to experience anything other than a selfcircular monotonous 1=1=1=... You don't want the perfectly symmetrical homogenous stillness, you crave the asymmetry and impossibility to ever reach perfection in time to experience anything other than nothing.

So maybe just be ok with playing human, god

[Exystem]

Do you also experience the coming back as a traumatizing experience? To me it feels like a child must feel when it is born. Feels like taking heavy layers and layers of twisted deception and ignorance to get back to experience again. Like I had to vomit up the whole cake of consciousness again...

[Infinite Tsukuyomi]

On 1/26/2025 at 3:27 PM, Fran11 said:

Whenever I have a drip trip a reach a point in which i feel i can't enjoy human life at that level of awakening and wamt to un-see oneness.

One could argue that is the ego whom resists. But it feels moxe existential than just ego. If as if reality itself was designed to keep that secret and you feel you broke reality by being conscious of how you are imagining everything.

Is the loneliness existential or just ego? 

 

Everyone is suggesting that you are creating  your own emotional interpretation of your awakening. You just aren't aware of how you're doing it, that's what really makes it frustrating, let me explain. The ego operates almost entirely unconsciously. *The feelings of not being able to enjoy human life is coming from the subconscious/unconscious mind as an ego in the dualistic hallucination. The ego is good at taking Truth and attempting at interpretations of it. 

I realized a few days ago, that I also have been having a hell of an ego backlash (5 MEO 30 days ago). I had many moments of "what's the point". A few more days of enduring my own suffering made me realize that these feelings are a result of the ego's sense-making and meaning-making, taking place in the background (subconscious) of my mind. You and I have an attachment to meaning. I've been using an idea from Gay Hendricks called a body map, it may not be his original idea though. Anyway, I can locate where meaning exists in the body, for me its right in the middle of my body just under the rib cage on my torso. Energy arises in this area at the same time as loneliness/solipsism etc. 

Our work is to dissolve it (or live with it). Of course letting it go is that last thing we want  

Interestingly, what is this post? Just more meaning making!  *My answer to your question is that the loneliness is ego.

[The Crocodile]

All these experiences are just limited ultimates as opposed to Ultimate Ultimates.