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Musk fascist salute

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Community noted on his own platform regarding his gaming rank. 
 

Seems power has gotten to his head. He thinks he’s a kingmaker. Some mix of Tony Stark and Thomas Jefferson. Quote tweeting Bad Ass Mofo at another nation being strong armed rather than negotiated with diplomatically.

 

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  On 1/27/2025 at 0:44 PM, Recursoinominado said:

Let's hear the germans:

 

The guy in this video proves my point. There is no evidence that Musk is an actual Nazi.

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  On 1/27/2025 at 1:55 PM, Basman said:

The guy in this video proves my point. There is no evidence that Musk is an actual Nazi.

What is even an actual Nazi?

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:00 PM, PurpleTree said:

What is even an actual Nazi?

Subscribing to Nazi ideology.

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I'm not denying how it comes off, but intention matters. Its the difference between homicide and manslaughter.

What is his intention then? You honestly think he was intending to do a Roman salute? Even if he was then he is claiming that he is totally unaware of how it's identical to a Nazi salute and in that case he should be removed from his position for being utterly stupid. He's either being racist or utterly stupid but there's no way to spin this as a acceptable behaviour for a (now essentially) world leader unless you're also racist.

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What if he's just British and wants a smoke? Get of your moral high horse.

If you go around asking people in Britain for a f*ggot you'll get your head smashed in. The word you're thinking of is 'fa*' and most young people and plenty of old people won't use that term anymore for this very reason.

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The point is I don't see there being any hard evidence that he is an actual Nazi. If more information comes out and proves that he is Nazi then I'll change my mind but that is currently not the case. That said, its fine to criticize an action, and what Musk did was stupid and bad, but don't start judging his character prematurely like a high schooler.

Again, you would be right if he wasn't currently the top advisor for one of the most powerful world leaders in the world. He has a higher standard of behaviour placed on him because of his position.

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:07 PM, Basman said:

Subscribing to Nazi ideology.

That makes sense.

Would you say South African apartheid ideology is similar to Nazi ideology?

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  On 1/27/2025 at 1:55 PM, Basman said:

The guy in this video proves my point. There is no evidence that Musk is an actual Nazi.

Nobody here said he is a Nazi, i've said he is siding with them, which is equally bad. 

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He associated himself with Nazis with that salute, it means what it means. He can say he is trolling, but these kinds of trolling often have truths underneath, and researching a bit his origins and family history, it quite fits. All neonazis and white supremacists see him as one of them, it was more subtle until now, although his engagement on X was in that spectrum. So what are we supposed to think? That he is not a Nazi? Well...

He is the head and face of his companies, Tesla, SpaceX and X, so he represents them and his products. He is also a public servant now, he works for the US government. As a leader, he should think twice of what he does, but the guy seems gone.

At this point, I think it's a mix of Asperger's syndrome, compulsive lying disorder, drug use or abuse, and other mental problems like narcissism or main character / god complex. He has money, power, influence, and a large number of followers that defend, and excuse him no matter what he does, that is true.

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  On 1/27/2025 at 0:59 PM, Leo Gura said:

It is sad to see Musk devolve into such low quality perspective and corruption.

If social media can rot his mind, what chance do normies and Gen Z have?

The online media social matrix is terrifying in its ability to create self-deception. It's like a mass self-deception machine and hardly anyone is aware of its epistemic distortion effects on mankind yet. And AI now throws gasoline on that fire.

The 21st century could go down in history as the century of the epistemic degeneracy of mankind.

 

Wait you can devolve SD stages?

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  On 1/26/2025 at 1:50 PM, manuel bon said:

I don't know if there's already a discussion about it here. 

Musk is not that stupid to not know that's the fascist salute... Kinda scary imo

1. Andrew Yang did a more close salute to Hitler's than Elon did, on a talk show, but made it clear that the hand started from the forehead, and nobody cared. Elon makes it clear that the salute started from the chest.

2. That's not the fascist salute in the first place, the fascist salute has the hand aligned with the arm. This is a completely different salute.

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:43 PM, numbersinarow said:

1. Andrew Yang did a more close salute to Hitler's than Elon did, on a talk show, but made it clear that the hand started from the forehead, and nobody cared. Elon makes it clear that the salute started from the chest.

2. That's not the fascist salute in the first place, the fascist salute has the hand aligned with the arm. This is a completely different salute.

Damn such a salute expert... Ridiculous 

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@numbersinarow Just go on YouTube and check how Mussolini does the salute.

He didn't do it the way you say or the way Hitler or other people did. It's still a fascist salute tho. 

Or maybe he didn't have the right technique, what do you say? 

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:59 PM, manuel bon said:

He didn't do it the way you say or the way Hitler or other people did. It's still a fascist salute tho. 

It's also a natural body language somebody would do when they are excited and want to say "thank you."

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Imagine for a moment, dear friends, that you are Conciousness, and that you have only this one awareness - that you are at peace, and that you are. 

 

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@Salvijus You think Mussolini, Musk, Meloni, and all their followers are not making a fascist salute, but they're saying thank you? 

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Besides, I've never seen someone saying thank you that way.

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  On 1/27/2025 at 0:59 PM, Leo Gura said:

It is sad to see Musk devolve into such low quality perspective and corruption.

If social media can rot his mind, what chance do normies and Gen Z have?

The online media social matrix is terrifying in its ability to create self-deception. It's like a mass self-deception machine and hardly anyone is aware of its epistemic distortion effects on mankind yet. And AI now throws gasoline on that fire.

The 21st century could go down in history as the century of the epistemic degeneracy of mankind.

It’s akin to the upheaval that the printing press caused in Europe, leading to the 30 years war etc 

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:19 PM, something_else said:

What is his intention then? You honestly think he was intending to do a Roman salute? Even if he was then he is claiming that he is totally unaware of how it's identical to a Nazi salute and in that case he should be removed from his position for being utterly stupid. He's either being racist or utterly stupid but there's no way to spin this as a acceptable behaviour for a (now essentially) world leader unless you're also racist.

If you go around asking people in Britain for a f*ggot you'll get your head smashed in. The word you're thinking of is 'fa*' and most young people and plenty of old people won't use that term anymore for this very reason.

Again, you would be right if he wasn't currently the top advisor for one of the most powerful world leaders in the world. He has a higher standard of behaviour placed on him because of his position.

I agree that its stupid and immature. Personally, I think he's just being edgy. You have to consider that this is the same guy who literally pays people to level his account in a game so he can say he good at games. The fact that he is in politics is a travesty. Calling him a Nazi sympathizer might be unfair if there is no hard evidence however. I'm just being fair.

Your "fa*****" example is an example where someone is clearly being hostile. That is the issue there. If you call your mate a "breedable and demure fa*****" on the down-low then that is clearly not problematic. Don't get so wrapped up in the content.

  On 1/27/2025 at 2:19 PM, PurpleTree said:

That makes sense.

Would you say South African apartheid ideology is similar to Nazi ideology?

I'm not knowledgeable of SA apartheid ideology. Does Musk subscribe to that? If so, then maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer.

  On 1/27/2025 at 2:22 PM, Recursoinominado said:

Nobody here said he is a Nazi, i've said he is siding with them, which is equally bad. 

I wouldn't hold such a strong opinion of someone without stronger evidence, personally.

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I don’t know but he was maybe brought up in such an environment early on. 
 

 

  On 1/27/2025 at 3:51 PM, Basman said:

I'm not knowledgeable of SA apartheid ideology. Does Musk subscribe to that? If so, then maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer.

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  On 1/27/2025 at 3:32 PM, manuel bon said:

@Salvijus You think Mussolini, Musk, Meloni, and all their followers are not making a fascist salute, but they're saying thank you? 

This is what mussolini salute looks like.  It's an emotionless symbol of some sort, of respect and loyalty maybe, idk. 

Elon is just expressing joy and gratitude, no fascists ever does a nazi salute to express joy and gratitude. That's a big difference. 

  On 1/27/2025 at 3:35 PM, manuel bon said:

Besides, I've never seen someone saying thank you that way.

It's not the only way to say thank you, but rising one hand in the air to say thank you is very common. It's more common when you're on stage in front of a public. 

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Imagine for a moment, dear friends, that you are Conciousness, and that you have only this one awareness - that you are at peace, and that you are. 

 

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@Salvijus there are other ways to express joy and gratitude, and people don't do it that way. Why? Cause it's a fascist salute. 

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