Musk fascist salute

[Kairos]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The 21st century could go down in history as the century of the epistemic degeneracy of mankind.

It absolutely will , AI will do all the jobs and humans will just mindlessly consume content and products .

There is no way human race will move towards enlightenment and spirituality when everyone have attention span of few seconds.

Short form content is just peak hedonism and brainrot.

Basically Brave New World 

[Daniel Balan]

33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is sad to see Musk devolve into such low quality perspective and corruption.

If social media can rot his mind, what chance do normies and Gen Z have?

The online media social matrix is terrifying in its ability to create self-deception. It's like a mass self-deception machine and hardly anyone is aware of its epistemic distortion effects on mankind yet. And AI now throws gasoline on that fire.

The 21st century could go down in history as the century of the epistemic degeneracy of mankind.

You should do a video on this topic as a follow up to How to avoid getting scammed, but this time in the lines of, how to avoid getting corrupted and captured by the social media matrix. How to distinguish between higher sources of information versus lower ones. I've watched your video on lower and higher perspectives and honestly next time I went on social media I couldn't discern between epistemic pervertry and high sources of information, based on the intel I gathered from watching that video! Especially if the Right Wing pundits have class and are very clever and sneaky on how they talk and manipulate the average viewer. The video you should do should ultimately make us 100% of the time be able to discern between BS and genuine sources of information. After watching that video we should be 100% full proofed against epistemic pervertry.

[zazen]

 

Community noted on his own platform regarding his gaming rank. 
 

Seems power has gotten to his head. He thinks he’s a kingmaker. Some mix of Tony Stark and Thomas Jefferson. Quote tweeting Bad Ass Mofo at another nation being strong armed rather than negotiated with diplomatically.

 

Edited Monday at 01:50 PM by zazen

[Basman]

1 hour ago, Recursoinominado said:

Let's hear the germans:

 

The guy in this video proves my point. There is no evidence that Musk is an actual Nazi.

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Basman said:

The guy in this video proves my point. There is no evidence that Musk is an actual Nazi.

What is even an actual Nazi?

[Basman]

6 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

What is even an actual Nazi?

Subscribing to Nazi ideology.

[something_else]

 

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I'm not denying how it comes off, but intention matters. Its the difference between homicide and manslaughter.

What is his intention then? You honestly think he was intending to do a Roman salute? Even if he was then he is claiming that he is totally unaware of how it's identical to a Nazi salute and in that case he should be removed from his position for being utterly stupid. He's either being racist or utterly stupid but there's no way to spin this as a acceptable behaviour for a (now essentially) world leader unless you're also racist.

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What if he's just British and wants a smoke? Get of your moral high horse.

If you go around asking people in Britain for a f*ggot you'll get your head smashed in. The word you're thinking of is 'fa*' and most young people and plenty of old people won't use that term anymore for this very reason.

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The point is I don't see there being any hard evidence that he is an actual Nazi. If more information comes out and proves that he is Nazi then I'll change my mind but that is currently not the case. That said, its fine to criticize an action, and what Musk did was stupid and bad, but don't start judging his character prematurely like a high schooler.

Again, you would be right if he wasn't currently the top advisor for one of the most powerful world leaders in the world. He has a higher standard of behaviour placed on him because of his position.

Edited Monday at 02:19 PM by something_else

[PurpleTree]

7 minutes ago, Basman said:

Subscribing to Nazi ideology.

That makes sense.

Would you say South African apartheid ideology is similar to Nazi ideology?

[Recursoinominado]

26 minutes ago, Basman said:

The guy in this video proves my point. There is no evidence that Musk is an actual Nazi.

Nobody here said he is a Nazi, i've said he is siding with them, which is equally bad. 

Edited Monday at 02:22 PM by Recursoinominado

[Hatfort]

He associated himself with Nazis with that salute, it means what it means. He can say he is trolling, but these kinds of trolling often have truths underneath, and researching a bit his origins and family history, it quite fits. All neonazis and white supremacists see him as one of them, it was more subtle until now, although his engagement on X was in that spectrum. So what are we supposed to think? That he is not a Nazi? Well...

He is the head and face of his companies, Tesla, SpaceX and X, so he represents them and his products. He is also a public servant now, he works for the US government. As a leader, he should think twice of what he does, but the guy seems gone.

At this point, I think it's a mix of Asperger's syndrome, compulsive lying disorder, drug use or abuse, and other mental problems like narcissism or main character / god complex. He has money, power, influence, and a large number of followers that defend, and excuse him no matter what he does, that is true.

[UpperMaster]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

It is sad to see Musk devolve into such low quality perspective and corruption.

If social media can rot his mind, what chance do normies and Gen Z have?

The online media social matrix is terrifying in its ability to create self-deception. It's like a mass self-deception machine and hardly anyone is aware of its epistemic distortion effects on mankind yet. And AI now throws gasoline on that fire.

The 21st century could go down in history as the century of the epistemic degeneracy of mankind.

 

Wait you can devolve SD stages?

[numbersinarow]

On 1/26/2025 at 2:50 PM, manuel bon said:

I don't know if there's already a discussion about it here. 

Musk is not that stupid to not know that's the fascist salute... Kinda scary imo

1. Andrew Yang did a more close salute to Hitler's than Elon did, on a talk show, but made it clear that the hand started from the forehead, and nobody cared. Elon makes it clear that the salute started from the chest.

2. That's not the fascist salute in the first place, the fascist salute has the hand aligned with the arm. This is a completely different salute.

[manuel bon]

12 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

1. Andrew Yang did a more close salute to Hitler's than Elon did, on a talk show, but made it clear that the hand started from the forehead, and nobody cared. Elon makes it clear that the salute started from the chest.

2. That's not the fascist salute in the first place, the fascist salute has the hand aligned with the arm. This is a completely different salute.

Damn such a salute expert... Ridiculous 

[manuel bon]

@numbersinarow Just go on YouTube and check how Mussolini does the salute.

He didn't do it the way you say or the way Hitler or other people did. It's still a fascist salute tho. 

Or maybe he didn't have the right technique, what do you say? 

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, manuel bon said:

He didn't do it the way you say or the way Hitler or other people did. It's still a fascist salute tho. 

It's also a natural body language somebody would do when they are excited and want to say "thank you."

Edited Monday at 03:08 PM by Salvijus

[manuel bon]

@Salvijus You think Mussolini, Musk, Meloni, and all their followers are not making a fascist salute, but they're saying thank you? 

[manuel bon]

Besides, I've never seen someone saying thank you that way.

[Joel3102]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is sad to see Musk devolve into such low quality perspective and corruption.

If social media can rot his mind, what chance do normies and Gen Z have?

The online media social matrix is terrifying in its ability to create self-deception. It's like a mass self-deception machine and hardly anyone is aware of its epistemic distortion effects on mankind yet. And AI now throws gasoline on that fire.

The 21st century could go down in history as the century of the epistemic degeneracy of mankind.

It’s akin to the upheaval that the printing press caused in Europe, leading to the 30 years war etc 

[Basman]

1 hour ago, something_else said:

What is his intention then? You honestly think he was intending to do a Roman salute? Even if he was then he is claiming that he is totally unaware of how it's identical to a Nazi salute and in that case he should be removed from his position for being utterly stupid. He's either being racist or utterly stupid but there's no way to spin this as a acceptable behaviour for a (now essentially) world leader unless you're also racist.

If you go around asking people in Britain for a f*ggot you'll get your head smashed in. The word you're thinking of is 'fa*' and most young people and plenty of old people won't use that term anymore for this very reason.

Again, you would be right if he wasn't currently the top advisor for one of the most powerful world leaders in the world. He has a higher standard of behaviour placed on him because of his position.

I agree that its stupid and immature. Personally, I think he's just being edgy. You have to consider that this is the same guy who literally pays people to level his account in a game so he can say he good at games. The fact that he is in politics is a travesty. Calling him a Nazi sympathizer might be unfair if there is no hard evidence however. I'm just being fair.

Your "fa*****" example is an example where someone is clearly being hostile. That is the issue there. If you call your mate a "breedable and demure fa*****" on the down-low then that is clearly not problematic. Don't get so wrapped up in the content.

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

That makes sense.

Would you say South African apartheid ideology is similar to Nazi ideology?

I'm not knowledgeable of SA apartheid ideology. Does Musk subscribe to that? If so, then maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer.

1 hour ago, Recursoinominado said:

Nobody here said he is a Nazi, i've said he is siding with them, which is equally bad. 

I wouldn't hold such a strong opinion of someone without stronger evidence, personally.

[PurpleTree]

I don’t know but he was maybe brought up in such an environment early on. 
 

 

9 minutes ago, Basman said:

I'm not knowledgeable of SA apartheid ideology. Does Musk subscribe to that? If so, then maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer.