Post Modernism Pt 2

[LifeEnjoyer]

3 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

It's a sort of prelude to the subconscious reprogramming course (whatever happened to that btw?)

IIRC, it's coming this 2025.

[gengar]

This was one of the best and most profound episodes yet, although subtly so. It was a sophisticated and nuanced exposition of what proper sense making and epistemology entails in the worldly/Shakti sense, which is a lot more messy, detailed and twisted than in the realm of Godhead/Shiva. A contrast to this episode would be the "what is reality episode" which is entirely in the realm of Shiva. Although that episode was extremely profound of course, it is basically about one truth, since the realm of Shiva is absolute oneness and therefore simpleness; the entire video was about the one radical truth of infinite imagination in this very moment. Very abstract and spiritual. And actually a lot easier in a sense to make than this video. In this video Leo really went into the nitty gritty of sense making of the world and you could see him struggling because so many points are so nuanced and complex, and hard to explicate properly, in contrast to saying "everything is fucking imaginary and there is no past or future, you are imagining everything right now". This video really went deep into the structure of our fractal worldly consciousness and not the ultimate structure of Shiva consciousness which is ultimate radicalness, oneness and transcendence. No one has done this so far. This video has profound implications and is a piece of art imo. But its subtly this way because it seems less radical than the "Shiva" videos. It's hard for me to explain why it's so good but this one is a huge one. The person complaining about some style mistakes or repetition imo does not really get how advanced this vid is and how much it integrates his previous vids with the real world.

My critique is that instead of making the distinction between 1st order truth and 2nd order truth, this naming is not accurate because it implies that there can be more orders of truth above level 2. It's not about orders of truth, it is not an increasing hierarchy, but actually a binary between Shiva and Shakti, or Godhead and world, whatever you want to call it. Shiva is absolute truth while Shakti is infinite relativity and worldliness. The postmodernist recognizes Shakti's nature but not Shivas. The naming of 1st/2nd order truth implies an ordinal sequence which is imo not correct. 

What still baffles me is that in this Video there is such a loving Leo with very positive energy, talking about spiritual values like sovereignty of all consciousnesses, etc. while on the blog and forum he talks about things like genetic superiority and empirical justification of worldly elites and devilry. We would never hear about such stances in his videos and there is something deeply sinister about that.

Edited 20 hours ago by gengar

[gambler]

3 minutes ago, gengar said:

What still baffles me is that in this Video there is such a loving Leo with very positive energy, talking about spiritual values like sovereignty of all consciousnesses, etc. while on the blog and forum he talks about things like genetic superiority and empirical justification of worldly elites and devilry. We would never hear about such stances in his videos and there is something deeply sinister about that.

Dude. That’s your uncharitable reading, stop doing that. 

[gengar]

On 27/01/2025 at 2:14 PM, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Bottom line is that, leftist woke postmodernist philosophy/ideology is only allowed to be created and exist due to significant technological progress. So that you can sit in your comfortable little chairs and philosophise. In a way, they're perfect examples of armchair philosophers

It's not the only thing that is necessary for it to bloom, but it is a necessary prerequisite

One thing I hate about Liberal woke people in Europe is how they love to preach extremist postmodernist things like gender-neutral raising of children, and a true despising of traditional gender roles, while they have no qualms about the fact that the people dying in Ukraine are mostly men that are forced to join the army while the women get too flee. They somehow don't see that this is the material reason of traditional gender roles in the first place. They literally don't see the hypocrisy in it. They are embodiments of millennial woke liberal memes of soy milk drinking people with strongly explicated subversive ideas about society, and they have an intense hatred for Putin. But they don't see that raising your sons that they can wear dresses and all that stuff means less defensive power against a potential enemy like the Russians. I wish I was exaggerating but I'm not, I empirically found that this is the level of left leaning liberals in western Europe, they are living memes.

This is why I have more respect for true socialist types like the Black Panthers where women also have to fight the same way as men. They were true egalitarians and not some elitarian twisted "woke" shit like the libs. But they came with their own universe of bullshit but it's more ideologically bullshit and not hypocritical like liberals are and also don't even exist anymore.

[gengar]

14 minutes ago, gambler said:

Dude. That’s your uncharitable reading, stop doing that. 

Claiming the true existence of genetic superiority is absolutely a huge thing.

[gambler]

@gengar One of the worst things about their hypocrisy as it relates to their disdain for gender norms, is that they absolutely hate perceived repression of femininity in girls. But are pro repression of masculinity for boys. The extreme aspects of femininity can be protected. Like making it socially unacceptable to slut shame. But have you ever heard of making it unacceptable to fuck-boy shame? This word can be used to shame men for sleeping around, it’s not a word that is necessarily applied in accordance with its strict definition (being manipulative). Yet, fuck boys, as used to shame how sexual a man is, are an example of toxic masculinity (because the man sees women as objects for sex). But sluts are not an example of toxic femininity because as a matter of fact, the libs haven’t even defined what toxic femininity is yet. 

Edited 17 hours ago by gambler

[Thought Art]

31 minutes ago, gengar said:

Claiming the true existence of genetic superiority is absolutely a huge thing.

Have you seen the Olympics or Victoria’s Secret? Professional basketball or football? You don’t think genes play a roll? Ever seen. Mouse in the white house?

Whether we like it or not people are born with different gifts from their genes. Some are born with higher intelligence, better looks, more athletic ability, taller, etc. Now, genes isn’t the only factor in success. But, for specific survival strategies. 

Edited 19 hours ago by Thought Art

[Dazgwny]

11 hours ago, Thought Art said:

is that it was a bit long

I don’t agree personally with this. I’ve never found an episode too long, and if something needs the time put into it to get the teaching across I’m all for that. There’s absolutely no reason anyone has to watch the episode in 1 sitting. Split it over 2 sittings over a couple of days if you do not have the time or have the attention span or whatever reason. To split it yourself is no different to when Leo makes a part 1/2/3 for a series. I see no issues with video length. And seems so many have moaned about a shortage of video releases over the last year or 2, then a longer one when released should make their day, split it yourself watch one half one week and the next half the following week and you’ve 2 videos for the price of one. Which may I remind the whiners is FREE

[Thought Art]

@Dazgwny Yeah, but it being long and having needless repetition is the critique. I don’t mind a long episode. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

39 minutes ago, gengar said:

This is why I have more respect for true socialist types like the Black Panthers where women also have to fight the same way as men. They were true egalitarians and not some elitarian twisted "woke" shit like the libs. But they came with their own universe of bullshit but it's more ideologically bullshit and not hypocritical like liberals are and also don't even exist anymore.

Interesting.

Well it's no wonder they don't exist anymore. Since it is like wanting tigers to become vegans or wanting fish to fly. Again, notice that the fact that you could even begin to seriously ponder about that question (that women should also fight) already posits a significant increase in technological development of our weaponry and indeed, that's what happened - we got guns and balistic missiles instead of swords, spears and catapults. However, even nowadays women would still not be fit to actually fight on the frontlines (not that anyone actually should, but that's not my point)

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

Claiming the true existence of genetic superiority is absolutely a huge thing.

You are genetically superior to a dwarf. Not morally superior, just your functional capacities are higher.

Ironically, as you complain about woke Europeans who cannot see that men need to fight in Ukraine, you are missing that dwarfs cannot win a war against Russians either, because they are physically limited. Physical strength is necessary to win in combat. But there is also mental strength. A mentally disabled general cannot win a war.

This is the reality of life.

Be careful not to jump to conclusions about what ought to be done about this. I am merely stating how reality works, not making any policy decisions or moral-worth claims.

No matter how much you dislike it, society IS composed of a bell-curve of weaker and stronger individuals across hundreds of dimensions, and these differences are not minor, they are massive. The challenge of organizing society is to figure out how to handle these differences in a good way without abusing anyone.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Kairos]

@Leo Gura Would AI and technology take general population towards higher consciousness or further from it ? 

[Leo Gura]

47 minutes ago, Kairos said:

@Leo Gura Would AI and technology take general population towards higher consciousness or further from it ? 

It's very hard to say how AI will play out.

Generally speaking human evolution seems to be moving towards higher consciousness. But that's very long-term. In the short-term lots of weirdness will happen.

Edited 17 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Adrian colby]

 

Sometimes I wonder if there are actual harmonised consciousness streams.

i wrote this essay and uploaded it about two weeks ago. 
 

im now listening to Leo’s post modernism 2, hearing similar concepts including the reference to using the tool to analyse the tool looping back on itself 🤣.

theres no real point to this comment, I’m just amusing myself.

thanks for the continued contemplation and sharing @Leo Gura.

[The Crocodile]

47 minutes ago, Adrian colby said:

Sometimes I wonder if there are actual harmonised consciousness streams.

There are.

[ryandesreu]

3 hours ago, Kairos said:

@Leo Gura Would AI and technology take general population towards higher consciousness or further from it ?

This following is the product of a chat with GPT.

What fascinates me is the tension between individuality and collective evolution. On one hand, higher consciousness seems to push us toward unity and connection. But on the other hand, history shows that individualism, competition, and conflict drive much of human progress. Are these forces necessary for growth, or will they eventually work against us?

I’m also intrigued by the idea of "devolution"—that as we move forward technologically, we might lose basic human skills, like intuition, survival instincts, or empathy. It’s strange to think that progress might lead us away from what makes us human in the first place.

Finally, I wonder if evolution will stop being about humans entirely. Maybe the future belongs to the systems we create—like AI or new ecosystems. Would that be an evolution of consciousness or the start of something entirely different?