When women rage it is deemed unseemly, but when men rage it commands respect

[Hardkill]

Just as men are socially conditioned to not cry as much as women, women are conversely socially conditioned not to come off as angry unless they happened to be more in a position of power such as teacher/principal in a school or a boss in a company and they rightfully yell at the student or employee for doing something very wrong. Other examples of this being considered acceptable are a female drill instructor in the military aggressively yelling at new recruits or subordinates or a mom yelling at her kids for bad behavior.

Yet, even women in those kinds of positions are still discouraged from displaying as much anger as men who hold the same kinds of positions of power.

Otherwise, women and girls who express anger will often be labeled as "emotional," "hysterical," or "aggressive," which can be damaging to their self-esteem and relationships. Women of color are especially subject to stereotyping and tropes, such as the "angry Black woman" or the "submissive Asian woman." These stereotypes can be even more damaging and limiting to such women.

Even Kara in Supergirl had to be lectured by her boss about how it's a bad look when any woman comes off mad:

 

 

Yet, when a man unleashes his rage (at the right time of course), especially in response to a perceived injustice or threat, it's often viewed as a sign of strength, authority, leadership, and masculine. White men are especially more allowed by society to display aggression and anger more so than men of color are, unless we are talking about a typical country in Africa that's ruled by black men, a country in Asia that's ruled by asian men, a Latin American country that's ruled by Latin men, or a country in the Middle East that's ruled by Arab men.

 

This is one of my favorite scenes from Boys. Billy Butcher came off as a real badass leader who knows how to command the room like a real man:

 

I bet most people who watched this were like "God damn! You got balls of steel! You showed them whose boss!" 

Edited yesterday at 12:14 AM by Hardkill

[Whitney Edwards]

Yea this always hurt me. How emotional suppression of women is never considered, even glorified. A whole part of their emotional system is repressed.

[Princess Arabia]

Men are socially conditioned to come off as horny. Especially white men, they are the horniest.

[Princess Arabia]

This fucking post just screams racism and sexism. Silly arguments. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Hardkill said:

White men are especially more allowed by society to display aggression and anger more so than men of color are, unless we are talking about a typical country in Africa that's ruled by black men,

Never seen a more silly statement. Allowed by society? Aggression and anger? Yeah maybe that's why they're the one's shooting up schools. Aggression and anger alright. You're right, black men rage at each other while white men rage at the whole world.

Edited yesterday at 04:03 AM by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

Put me in an elevator with 10 black men, i feel safe. Put me in an elevator with one lone angry aggressive and rage full white man with a suitcase and a trench coat and I'm nervous asf and trembling. 

[Princess Arabia]

I wonder if when that white man who was filled with aggression and rage in Las Vegas and shot up half of Mandalay Bay got the respect he deserved. 

[Consept]

@Princess Arabia I don't think op is saying it's a good thing 

[Hardkill]

@Princess Arabia I am not saying that it's right or fair that women and people of color are shamed more than men are for coming off angry. In fact, I think it is unjust in many respects that these archaic notions of how men and women should act still matter to most people even in a developed country like America.

Edited yesterday at 07:38 AM by Hardkill

[Whitney Edwards]

15 hours ago, Hardkill said:

White men are especially more allowed by society to display aggression and anger more so than men of color are, unless we are talking about a typical country in Africa that's ruled by black men, a country in Asia that's ruled by asian men, a Latin American country that's ruled by Latin men, or a country in the Middle East that's ruled by Arab men.

I don't know where you get that from. White men are generally not angry or aggressive on average. 

White men show muted and dismissive forms of anger rather than active, raging and unbearable forms. 

Also white men whine a lot in a kinda cute way. But that's better than someone screaming in your face. Also white men are compliant. 

Edited 23 hours ago by Buck Edwards

[Schizophonia]

Sometimes it seems like op is a crazy leftist on clomid or aromatizable steroids lol.

 

Men cry less for biological reasons, and because their nervous system learns that it is useless to cry in x situation in their case.

Women should not be in the military, they are weaker, will not be respected as much, and are less able to stand war scenes.
The one who inspired my seminal retention adventure had a military friend who committed suicide for this reason.
 

[Schizophonia]

24 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I don't know where you get that from. White men are generally not angry or aggressive on average. 

White men show muted and dismissive forms of anger rather than active, raging and unbearable forms. 

Also white men whine a lot. But that's better than someone screaming in your face. Also white men are compliant. 

I follow a French-speaking Swiss YouTuber who has a Nigerian parent. He explained how the first times he went there he was afraid because Nigerians have a habit of violently arguing over nothing at all, so to suddenly come back strangely normal.

[Whitney Edwards]

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I follow a French-speaking Swiss YouTuber who has a Nigerian parent. He explained how the first times he went there he was afraid because Nigerians have a habit of violently arguing over nothing at all, so to suddenly come back strangely normal.

[gettoefl]

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[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Seems like it is a ripe time to enlarge my list of ignored users. This topic just provided me with an excelent opportunity to do so

[Basman]

Rage is respected when it is a means to action. Rage of action if you will. A raging man might like Billy Butcher might just kill someone with his bare hands. That commands respect.

When women rage it is usually because they want their feelings heard and accepted but nobody really cares about how you feel. It comes of as catty and futile.

[Whitney Edwards]

I think how you express rage matters. Collective rage or outrage is generally taken more seriously because it's against a systemic problem. 

But if you showed rage against a stranger in a bar or a club, that would come off as lacking in social calibration. 

Also there's drug fueled or alcohol fueled rage. Anger can be of many kinds. 

If someone is screaming in your face, it doesn't make sense. If someone makes a logical argument but in a heated tone, it's still acceptable. Some men don't like women who get angry since they perceive it as a form of dominance or bossiness. It takes empathy to understand genuine anger regardless of gender. No gpt used. 

[numbersinarow]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yeah maybe that's why they're the one's shooting up schools. Aggression and anger alright.

The right wing's claims about black crime are much more extreme than you simply pointing out one type of crime among white people.

If you were sitting on the fence, who would you be more likely to think is convincing? This is not me saying the right wing is correct or more persuasive, they just appear so when you use a talking point about whites committing more school shootings.

[Princess Arabia]

39 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

The right wing's claims about black crime are much more extreme than you simply pointing out one type of crime among white people.

If you were sitting on the fence, who would you be more likely to think is convincing? This is not me saying the right wing is correct or more persuasive, they just appear so when you use a talking point about whites committing more school shootings.

The facts speaks for themselves. This is not about black VS white crime its about whose more of a threat to the whole population. Black crime is USUALLY in house and amongst each other.

When you look at the stats for serial killers and mass shooters what do you see mostly. They are more of a threat to the whole world.

Edited 20 hours ago by Princess Arabia

[Tenebroso]

Go back to bed