Is travel a complete waste of time?

[Sugarcoat]

What you can gain from experience is largely on you. What you manage to squeeze out of it. What you bring with you when it’s all over. What lessons you gain. You don’t have to be like your friends that return to normal if that’s not for you. Don’t think your results must be like theirs. So you want a lifestyle change it seems? It’s possible to make one long term. Traveling could become a full time thing for example. It will be worth it depending on your purpose for doing it.

Edited Tuesday at 07:13 PM by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

What you can gain from experience is largely on you. What you manage to squeeze out of it. What you bring with you when it’s all over. What lessons you gain. You don’t have to be like your friends that return to normal if that’s not for you. Don’t think your results must be like theirs. It will be worth it depending on your purpose for doing it.

I learned bloodpudding  is a legend. 

Edited Tuesday at 07:13 PM by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

I learned bloodpudding  is a legend. 

Legend as in legendary or as something that isn’t real?

Its not important 😹 

Last time I got a warning point when meantioning blood pudding gotta be careful 

Edited Tuesday at 07:15 PM by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

12 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Legend as in legendary or as something that isn’t real?

That isn’t real.

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Its not important 😹 

More imaginary pig's blood dish for my tall slavic 🤗👺

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Last time I got a warning point when meantioning blood pudding gotta be careful 

It traumatized you lol
 

You’re right no pb.

Edited Tuesday at 07:26 PM by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

 

9 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

That isn’t real.

More imaginary pig's blood dish for my tall slavic 🤗👺

It traumatized you lol
 

You’re right no pb.

Iron😎

Yea I’m more careful after the warning

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

 

Iron😎

Eheh.

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea I’m more careful after the warning

👍

[Moon]

Following your true joys and desires is listening to your higher self 

Wasting time is doing things that make you miserable

Travelling can be either of those depending on the person

[RawJudah]

@Michael569 this is great help, thank you. All the replies here are helpful, thank you to everyone. 
What I forgot to mention is that I’m a normal dude with a job. I didn’t go to university, I’m not an academic. I was originally saving up to buy a house, and I’ve probably got enough to buy one. But now that seems pointless. 
There are people out there living amazing lives and they aren’t working a normal job, they aren’t saving up to buy an overpriced house. 
Deep down I think I have a weak ego. How the hell do I gain a healthy ego when all I’m doing is working and saving up for a house? There is literally no growth there at all. I talk to people, I try to be nice and friendly to people, I’m not going out partying anymore or doing crazy stuff. So yeah, that’s it. And every now and again I think about suicide simply to get out of this mess. It sometimes seems like a valid way out. Because the way the world is going it can’t be good. As a normal dude with a job - it ain’t great. 

[RawJudah]

Or am I getting lost in other peoples fun exciting lives? I know that most people don’t quit their job to go backpacking around the world. It looks so fun and I’ve had friends tell me about all the sex they’re getting and how much free time they have whilst travelling. 

I still exist as an ego. I haven’t reached the point where life is magical and we’re all one and there isn’t any monkey mind going on. 

[Michael569]

2 hours ago, RawJudah said:

I was originally saving up to buy a house, and I’ve probably got enough to buy one. But now that seems pointless. 

If you have enough money to buy a house at your age , you're doing better than most people. I'm 34 and couldn't afford to buy a house without mortgaging my ass for 25-30 years. Don't discredit things you have going for you just because you're not doing something your friends are doing. I've known people who escaped with travel for years and came back home broke and lost. Hence why I said it needs to be strategic. 

When you talk about weak ego, it sounds almost like you're saying "I have low self confidence" which is something that can be worked on. 

With the travel, some companies allow you to take a sabbatical for up to 12 months. That would be an option. Some people completely resign their jobs if they have no other choice. Depends on what feels right.

Maybe you need to buy that house first. 

But from what you are saying, it sounds like some temporary change of scenery would do you good. 

Of course there are other things that potentially come into play here such as your health, physical activity, socialisation, hobbies, skills you're developing. I think there are a few guys around here who do a form of coaching so maybe you could work with someone on that? 

There's just too many variables in play here and I feel having someone who would methodically help you look at everything would help you. 

[Dinesh Karki]

I don't have clear cut answer what you should do brother. but felt like you have to travel in order to get experience or feeling whether you like or not. 

[RawJudah]

@Michael569 well if you’re in the UK like me then you know the deal with house prices over here, it’s mind boggling. 
Not all my friends have gone travelling, only a few, and they make it sound so good. I will have a word with my boss to see if I can go on a sabbatical but they’re trying to get rid of people so I doubt I’ll be aloud back haha. 
Maybe I should stop listening to those travelling friends? It’s hard to think for ourselves these days isn’t it? And the idea of ‘settling down’ scares me, especially in this day and age where literally nothing is permanent. And yeah, my social skills aren’t great - but who’s are? Talking to random strangers in the street doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. 
Do you coach? Your replies to this thread have been the most helpful. You seem to know a lot of stuff about life.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

You mean to tell me that you got enough money to buy a house, straight up? No mortgage? That's a very good position to be in.

If you don't care about the house itself that much, you should just purchase an apartment in some relatively good city location (up to you where and how to find it out) and rent it out to some stable established family (stable families and couples make for the best renters in my opinion, ideally childless) for a relatively lower price. Or as high as you could get it, just make sure it's competitive and it covers energy bill and other basic bills, and something on top of that obviously. Then you're going to have double income streams, you realize that right? Now you'd be able to save up much more money (and faster) and then maybe quit your job and go traveling. Or whatever you wish to do.

If you just go traveling then you'll burn all that money and may end up with nothing. And you'd still have to return to your 9-5 job. And all of that just because your friends are evoking some fickle emotions in you? That's very irresponsible choice in my opinion.

You could buy a house but then who would really want to be a house tenant? It is better to rent out an appartment in a city because most young people (young couples) would want to live in a city. Even if for a limited ammount of time.

[Salvijus]

The point of earning money is so that you could do something with it that you like. If you're just working and not doing anything else, then wtf. 

Edited yesterday at 02:10 PM by Salvijus

[Kairos]

22 hours ago, RawJudah said:

I’ll always have in the back of my mind about coming back. And then what? Back to the mundane shit I’m in right now?

But when you comeback you won't be the same person .

And maybe you'll appreciate your "mundane" life more after it .

[RawJudah]

@NewKidOnTheBlock what I meant was that I’ve got enough money for a deposit on a house in the UK, which means a fair bit of money. You couldn’t buy one outright unless you were a millionaire. I’d be paying it off over 30 years. 

[RawJudah]

@Salvijus what to buy with money saved though? Material objects? Dinosaur skeletons?

[Michael569]

1 hour ago, RawJudah said:

well if you’re in the UK like me then you know the deal with house prices over here, it’s mind boggling. 

I hear you brother...my wife and I are looking for a property to buy in 2025 and its mad !!! And I'm living 2.5 hours away from London by train. London is pretty much unaffordable. 

1 hour ago, RawJudah said:

will have a word with my boss to see if I can go on a sabbatical but they’re trying to get rid of people so I doubt I’ll be aloud back haha. 

Its important you don't take a hasty decision but carefully evaluate pros and cons. If your finances are stable maybe you could take that leap of faith. I wouldn't want to tell you what to do

1 hour ago, RawJudah said:

And the idea of ‘settling down’ scares me, especially in this day and age where literally nothing is permanent.

Maybe you need to reflect on whether you actually want to settle (buy a property) or would actually have more freedom from renting. There is no harm in renting if you value flexibility. I wanna have a kid within next 16 months so I'm looking for a bit of permanence for the time being but you should evaluate if that's the right thing for you to do. Some people just drop all their stuff into a storage unit, drop their rent and go backpack. It is a bit brave but as long as you have enough money you're fine. When you come back you can crash in airbnb while you figure out your next move. 

I think you'd benefit from some sort of journalling or reflecting. Understand what you value and what you want from life. Some things are difficult to just "think about", our minds aren't great at that, when we put things down on a paper, deeper regions of the cortex get deployed and we can visualise better.

1 hour ago, RawJudah said:

Do you coach? Your replies to this thread have been the most helpful. You seem to know a lot of stuff about life.

I've gone through a lot of these things myself so some of it is prior experience. I do work with people but but its more health & nutriiton oriented. This type of coaching, I'm not particularly qualified in. There are guys around here who are I believe. 

[Salvijus]

2 hours ago, RawJudah said:

@Salvijus what to buy with money saved though? Material objects? Dinosaur skeletons?

Seems like you're laking vision in life. Some higher purpose. Something more than survival. Then you'll naturally know where to invest that money. 

[RawJudah]

@Salvijus I was half joking. Maybe I do need a life purpose or something. 
Have you found your life purpose and are making a living from it?

To me having a serious life purpose seems so rare. Even if everyone on this forum says they’ve found theirs.