Is Fascism Rising in the US?

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

we just really want and need those rare earth minerals. So we are willing to make a deal which does benefit both. But if you won’t we still will take them because we need it for tech and industry“

That's what china is doing in Africa. China is developing Africa, something that Europe and america never really tried

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's what china is doing in Africa. China is developing Africa, something that Europe and america never really tried

Yea but they also make them dependent on China which is smart obviously. They bring their own workers from China to build stuff which is wild because it doesn’t really create many jobs Africa. It does create infrastructure though which is good i guess. But have you heard of Chinese ghost towns etc. Often they ccp just build stuff to build stuff for economical reasons. Which is horrible for the environment obviously.

 

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11 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

But have you heard of Chinese ghost towns etc. Often they ccp just build stuff to build stuff for economical reasons

I think that they was a mistake of calculation, but of course china is not respectful with the environment 

11 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Yea but they also make them dependent on China which is smart obviously. They bring their own workers from China to build stuff which is wild because it doesn’t really create many jobs Africa. It does create infrastructure though which is good i guess.

If they do infrastructure development could happen. It is certainly better than fomenting wars to sell weapons and put a friendly dictator in power and steal resources, leaving the population in absolute misery. The American population is very naive, they do not understand what their country is, they really think they are "good" and fight against the "evil" like Jedis knights by bombing cities to steal oil. Later it turns out that the whole thing about weapons of mass destruction was a lie, but no, they do not want to see.

Blinken 1 month ago was complaining about the age of Recruitment in Ukraine, to lower it from 25 to 18, the vampire that sucks the blood of virgins. I think that they seems more like palpatine than the Jedis that they think they are 😅

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[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think that they was a mistake of calculation, but of course china is not respectful with the environment 

If they do infrastructure development could happen. It is certainly better than fomenting wars to sell weapons and put a friendly dictator in power and steal resources, leaving the population in absolute misery. The American population is very naive, they do not understand what their country is, they really think they are "good" and fight against the "evil" like Jedis knights by bombing cities to steal oil. Later it turns out that the whole thing about weapons of mass destruction was a lie, but no, they do not want to see.

It‘ll be interesting to see how it works out for sure.

 

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

It‘ll be interesting to see how it works out for sure.

 

Let's see if the Americans can face their deep hypocrisy, it's sad to see how naive and false they are.

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Let's see if the Americans can face their deep hypocrisy, it's sad to see how naive and false they are.

I don’t think it’s fair to single out Americans here but if that makes you happy then that’s cool. We could call China fascist and wouldn’t be wrong. And you think they don’t claim to be the „good“ guys but they do.

[PurpleTree]

I guess every empire and power has to claim to be the good guys and others the bad  or worse ones.

It would be cool to see a very self reflective less hypocritical power/empire for once though.

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23 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

We could call China fascist and wouldn’t be wrong. And you think they don’t claim to be the „good“ guys but they do.

China is working to to get out of poverty. It still has 700 million people living in the Middle Ages. The Chinese effort is something never seen before in humanity for its speed and its effectiveness. Comparing China with the USA makes no sense, are two different realities.

 USA had the possibility of being a country of justice, and it is a country that provokes the war in Ukraine to burden others, it has defined itself. China has not provoked any war to enrich itself for now, the USA has many. People from their houses with 4 cars do not understand what it means to provoke a war and it does not matter to them, they want another better car and that's it.

Edited yesterday at 12:21 PM by Breakingthewall

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16 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

guess every empire and power has to claim to be the good guys and others the bad  or worse ones.

No, in the past they claim to be the civilized, the order, the religion, anything, not the "good warriors of liberty" bombing cities. We are all so scandalized because in Gaza 50 thousands died to finish Hamas, but who cares of 500 hundred that died in irak to make money with the oil? Or the million of young soldiers who died in Ukraine to weaken Germany, sell gas and weaken Russia? Hypocrisy.

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No, in the past they claim to be the civilized, the order, the religion, anything, not the "good warriors of liberty" bombing cities. We are all so scandalized because in Gaza 50 thousands died to finish Hamas, but who cares of 500 hundred that died in irak to make money with the oil? Or the million of young soldiers who died in Ukraine to weaken Germany, sell gas and weaken Russia? Hypocrisy.

The biggest anti war protest in my city ever was against the US Iraq war/invasion.

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2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

The biggest anti war protest in my city ever was against the US Iraq war/invasion.

In mine too. The Americans have to understand that their country destroyed countries for money, killing babies and all that stuff. Israel is killing babies for their survival, not for more yatchs with helicopter, it's different. 

Seems that nobody understands what happened in Ukraine, it was just for business, to weaken the EU and be richer. It's very disgusting. Its normal that is happening because humans are like that, what is disgusting is the hypocrisy and the naive vision

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Seems that nobody understands what happened in Ukraine, it was just for business, to weaken the EU and be richer. It's very disgusting. Its normal that is happening because humans are like that, what is disgusting is the hypocrisy and the naive vision

Nah Putin wants his Empire back but Ukrainians, Belarusians, Georgians, Armenians don’t want to be part of a smelly Russian Putler empire. An empire without freedom of speech and people fall out of wibdows. They‘d rather be closer to Europe/West. Putin can’t let that happen because he fears Russia might crumble because of that and so on.

 

That’s a bit hyperbolic but Who knows though.

I do think Ukrainians want rather closer ties to Europe than Russia.

Edited yesterday at 12:39 PM by PurpleTree

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Nah Putin wants his Empire back but Ukrainians, Belarusians, Georgians, Armenians don’t want to be part of a smelly Russian Putler empire

No way, Ukraine has been in Russia's sphere since the Middle Ages, Russia is a military superpower. There has been a nationalist conflict in Ukraine for 3 centuries, the Americans have detected it and have strengthened it and made it burn. They want the disintegration of Russia to vampirize its resources. 

Putler🤣 I thought I was talking to someone who wanted to understand.

[PurpleTree]

I live in Europe. I‘ve met many Ukrainian refugees. Tibetan too actually.

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@PurpleTree 

Kissinger warned already in 2014 that “for Russia, Ukraine can never be simply a foreign country” and that it therefore needs a policy aiming at “reconciliation.” He was also firm in his stance that “Ukraine should not join NATO.”

- John Mearsheimer – probably the leading US geopolitical expert today – in 2015: “The West is leading Ukraine down a rosy path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to be destroyed [...] What we are doing is, in fact, encouraging that outcome.”

- Jack F. Matlock Jr., US ambassador to the Soviet Union between 1987 and 1991, warned in 1997 that NATO expansion was “the most profound strategic mistake, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious threat to security [...] since the collapse of the Soviet Union.” -

Clinton's Defense Secretary William Perry explains in his memoirs that he sees NATO enlargement as the cause of "the breakdown in relations with Russia" and that in 1996 he was so opposed to it that "out of the strength of my conviction, I considered resigning."

- Noam Chomsky in 2015, saying that "the idea that Ukraine could join a Western military alliance would be absolutely unacceptable to any Russian leader" and that Ukraine's desire to join NATO "is not protecting Ukraine, it is threatening Ukraine with a major war." -

 

Edited yesterday at 12:57 PM by Breakingthewall

[PurpleTree]

Yea but i don’t trust Kissinger at all. He’s very creepy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger

So what do you tell countries like Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia etc. who want less Russian influence and closer ties to the West?

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8 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Yea but i don’t trust Kissinger at all. He’s very creepy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger

So what do you tell countries like Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia etc. who want less Russian influence and closer ties to the West?

It's a delicate matter that has to be done slowly, but the problem with Ukraine is that its natural resources are enormous and that it has a large Russian population. There was a coup d'état promoted by Biden in the Obama era and then a war began in which the Russian population was systematically bombed. The recovery of Crimea was planned, with 70% of the population Russian and enormous gas reserves.

The US was like a vampire to pour gasoline on the fire, knowing that the ultimate gasoline was Ukraine in NATO with nukes. Russia's reaction was absolutely certain and they knew it. They planned the war thinking that Russia would be weaker, that Putin would fall and they could vampirize Ukraine and Russia. Ucraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, Biden's son was a director of the biggest Ukrainian gas company, Don't you find that strange?

Edited yesterday at 01:17 PM by Breakingthewall

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

They planned the war thinking that Russia would be weaker, that Putin would fall and they could vampirize Ukraine and Russia.

I think it’s the other way around Putain planned the war thinking that the resistance and the West is weaker. That’s why it was called 3 day military operation. But we can agree to disagree and leave it at that.

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I think it’s the other way around Putain planned the war thinking that the resistance and the West is weaker. That’s why it was called 3 day military operation. But we can agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Sorry to appear arrogant but you don't know what you are talking about, you didn't dig deep in that matter, do it, you will understand for sure. 

The Americans have been militarizing and fortifying Ukraine for 10 years. Don't believe what politicians tell the population. They speak to ignorant people and never tell the truth. Everyone knew there was going to be a war, but no one knows how it will develop once it starts. This war is the turning point of an era, the end of the unipolar world.

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sorry to appear arrogant but you don't know what you are talking about, you didn't dig deep in that matter, do it, you will understand for sure. 

The Americans have been militarizing and fortifying Ukraine for 10 years. Don't believe what politicians tell the population. They speak to ignorant people and never tell the truth. Everyone knew there was going to be a war, but no one knows how it will develop once it starts. This war is the turning point of an era, the end of the unipolar world.

Then why did Putain call it 3 day military operation?

Then why is Putin now using NK troops?

Imo Putin thought Ukraine was weak and would crumble and and that many would want to be part of Russia or be scared to fight back.

He underestimated how much people don’t want to be part of a smelly Russian empire.

Putain also underestimated Europe/US.