Is Fascism Rising in the US?

[Blood is Life]

Could a Fascist Movement Emerge in the US Within Five Years?

With Robert Paxton’s definition of fascism in mind, it is worth asking whether a strong fascist movement could take shape in the US within the next five years. Historically, fascist tendencies have already existed in the country, such as the Ku Klux Klan and Father Coughlin’s influential radio broadcasts during the 1930s. American fascism doesn’t need to resemble Hitler or Mussolini; instead, it can adapt to the country’s unique circumstances and target various groups – minorities, liberals, or other perceived enemies.

Donald Trump has been described by some as a fascist figure. Given increasing political polarization, economic instability, and weakening trust in democratic institutions, the risk of an even more extreme movement or leader emerging is real. This raises the urgent question: How likely is it that the US will face such a development, and what might the consequences be?

 

[Jacob Morres]

I think yes. Elon Musk has been pushing a lot far-right propaganda and has shown support for fascist leaders through X. A few weeks ago he was trying to normalize and get Tommy Fergurson out of prison, who quite literally was a former leader of a far-right fascist group in the UK lol. He also is pushing for far-right leadership in many european countries. 

Edited Saturday at 06:17 PM by Jacob Morres

[Lyubov]

Yes

[Whitney Edwards]

America has a strong democratic base. It will offset the fascist currents. A plateau might be reached in the future. The fascist trend has to run it's course until people begin to wake up to it's toxicity. The ultra left will paralyze the fascist gravy train. 

 

[Willie]

49 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

America has a strong democratic base. It will offset the fascist currents. A plateau might be reached in the future. The fascist trend has to run it's course until people begin to wake up to it's toxicity. The ultra left will paralyze the fascist gravy train. 

 

I admire the optimism!

[Breakingthewall]

Almost Impossible, Trump has won only as a reaction of fed up, but the US would never allow a dictatorship. Imagine, after bombing so many dictators to implement democracy, becoming a dictatorship. It would be too hypocritical to be able to survive as a country. But who knows what could happen if a deep crisis occurs

[kray]

There’s always been an undertone of fascist tendencies in this country to be honest. Racism towards non whites is as old as this country’s foundation, if not longer. We had the Chinese exclusion act, which banned anyone who was Asian or nonwhite coming into the country. To be fair while times feel racist now, we are no where near how racist we were during the 50s or 60s. This isn’t a new America, this is just America trying to go backwards in time. A century ago this same hatred was there towards other European immigrants, primarily coming from southern and Eastern Europe, and they were not exactly seen as “white” back then. We can get through this! We got through the Reagan, bush, Nixon, and every racist ass president before, we can do it now. And hey trump did kick Elon’s ass out of the White House so I guess the billionaire’s influence on trump went down a little. While trump takes advantage of fears and funnels it into racism for his own maintenance of power, Elon is a literal nazi (there’s so many signs that it’s not hard to connect the dots). Elon having less of an influence on trump is a good thing. 

[Emerald]

Yes, it's been emerging from the collective Shadow and into the public consciousness since 2015. 

Back then, if you mentioned the rise of Fascism people would just roll their eyes at you.

But currently, I'd imagine that more than half of people are becoming conscious of the rising Fascism.... though some people will still be like "It can't happen here."

The reality is that (relative to humanity as a whole over the course of human history) the behaviors and beliefs associated with Fascism are a LOT more commonplace than the behaviors and beliefs associated with democracy.

We're a species that's had 49 genocides in the past 50 years. 

So Fascism and the Fascist impulse is common and banal... but has ben suppressed in America and other 1st world nations until about 10 years ago.

And it rises more and more from the depths of the taboo blinders that it was shrouded as it becomes more normalized via internet culture.

Edited Saturday at 11:38 PM by Emerald

[Thought Art]

Too late

[Sempiternity]

It is already here. The Republican MAGA has control over the Presidency, the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the Military, and every branch of government. They are systematically replacing every major position in every branch of government with loyalists. Just yesterday, Trump dismantled all Watchdog groups. There are no more checks and balances. With the Supreme Court ruling that Presidents have complete Immunity from any prosecution, he can do literally anything now. Even old Democratic laws he can just flatly ignore, same with the Constitution. Cancel elections, round up and assassinate political rivals, order the military to shoot protesting citizens. We are 100% in a Fascist ruled country now. And there is nothing at all to stop them (expect the thing no one wants to talk about). 

[Sempiternity]

1 hour ago, Sempiternity said:

It is already here. The Republican MAGA has control over the Presidency, the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the Military, and every branch of government. They are systematically replacing every major position in every branch of government with loyalists. Just yesterday, Trump dismantled all Watchdog groups. There are no more checks and balances. With the Supreme Court ruling that Presidents have complete Immunity from any prosecution, he can do literally anything now. Even old Democratic laws he can just flatly ignore, same with the Constitution. Cancel elections, round up and assassinate political rivals, order the military to shoot protesting citizens. We are 100% in a Fascist ruled country now. And there is nothing at all to stop them (expect the thing no one wants to talk about). 

Problem is, everyone still thinks we are in the same world like it's always been for the past 237 years here in the US. Sure, we've had shitty Presidents, but it always balances out. We have always had ways of things not getting too bad. That time is gone.  Remember Trump himself promised there will be no more elections after he wins. They can literally do anything now. Invade other Countries, round up citizens, stop food sources to certain area to starve out communities or whole states they don't like. You think another country is going to come and save us from them? Hell no. People are now just completely ignorant of what has happened, what is happening, and what is going to happen. But they'll clue in soon enough as every day gets worse and worse. 

Edited yesterday at 02:45 AM by Sempiternity

[Jacob Morres]

3 hours ago, Emerald said:

We're a species that's had 49 genocides in the past 50 years. 

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[PurpleTree]

9 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Almost Impossible, Trump has won only as a reaction of fed up, but the US would never allow a dictatorship. Imagine, after bombing so many dictators to implement democracy, becoming a dictatorship. It would be too hypocritical to be able to survive as a country. But who knows what could happen if a deep crisis occurs

The US supported (right wing) dictatorships and regime changed democratically elected governments who didn’t suit them.

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

The US supported (right wing) dictatorships and regime changed democratically elected governments who didn’t suit them.

Yes, If you look at it in depth, American politics is very depressing, falsehoods and hypocrisy that are becoming more and more obvious. Just business, profit.

 

Edited yesterday at 10:16 AM by Breakingthewall

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, If you look at it in depth, American politics is very depressing, falsehoods and hypocrisy that are becoming more and more obvious.

That was always the case. The generation leftists of my mother here in Europe always disliked US politics etc. For toppling governments in Latin America and elsewhere.

Edited yesterday at 10:16 AM by PurpleTree

[Breakingthewall]

23 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

That was always the case. The generation of my here in Europe always disliked US politics etc. For toppling governments in Latin America and elsewhere.

Same in middle east, but well, was far, who cares of half a million deaths in irak just for controlling the oil? But this in Ukraine.... maybe this is the end of EEUU as a main power in the world , they are absolutely selfish, a treacherous partner who don't want to share the wealth and the power, don't want to collaborate . If everyone else is weak they can act in that way, but the world is no longer unipolar.

They should stay within their borders, letting people die of cancer because they don't have health insurance, in their capitalist paradise full of guns.

Anyway, EEUU has been the engine of the world for long time, so some respect is needed. Everything in dirty in human nature, and EEUU is not an exception 

Edited yesterday at 10:41 AM by Breakingthewall

[PurpleTree]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Same in middle east, but well, was far, who cares of half a million deaths in irak just for controlling the oil? But this in Ukraine.... maybe this is the end of EEUU as a main power in the world , they are absolutely selfish, a treacherous partner who don't want to share the wealth and the power, don't want to collaborate . If everyone else is weak they can act in that way, but the world is no longer unipolar.

They should stay within their borders, letting people die of cancer because they don't have health insurance, in their capitalist paradise full of guns.

I don’t think countries like India, China, Iran etc. are less selfish. They just don’t hold the same power yet. Image how China would treat immigrants refugees if it had the same amount as Europe or the US.

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I don’t think countries like India, China, Iran etc. are less selfish. They just don’t hold the same power yet. Image how China would treat immigrants refugees if it had the same amount as Europe or the US.

China would treat them absolutely harshly, just like the Chinese themselves. The problem with the US is not that they are "evil", is their hypocrisy . they pretend that are destroying countries to save their inhabitants, because they are holy missionaries of freedom, when they are greedy predatory vampires. They are hypocrisy personified, we must not judge them but we must see what they really are.

For example saint Obama, the most false person ever: 

Reflecting on his legacy in a Fox News interview aired on Sunday, Obama said his “worst mistake” was “probably failing to plan for the day after what I think was the right thing to do in intervening in Libya”.

Yes, sure. this sentence it is understood that he invaded Libya for justice and freedom, like the white knights of love that the Americans are, but, oh!, he was too naive and did not calculate well.

No, the plan worked perfectly. Gaddafi made a gesture of rebellion when he approached China, his country was destroyed and the oil was controlled. Quick and effective. But what would happen to Saint Obama if China and Russia say: no, this oil is not yours, it belongs to a sovereign country and it has decided to sell it to me. And they send their army? It's easy be the bully when nobody has capacity of response, but if they have, everything is different  . Now the world is not unipolar anymore, the inflexion point is Ukraine, the stupid movement of Biden that marks the beginning of a new era

 

Edited yesterday at 10:58 AM by Breakingthewall

[PurpleTree]

31 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

China would treat them absolutely harshly, just like the Chinese themselves. The problem with the US is not that they are "evil", is their hypocrisy . they pretend that are destroying countries to save their inhabitants, because they are holy missionaries of freedom, when they are greedy predatory vampires. They are hypocrisy personified, we must not judge them but we must see what they really are.

For example saint Obama, the most false person ever: 

Reflecting on his legacy in a Fox News interview aired on Sunday, Obama said his “worst mistake” was “probably failing to plan for the day after what I think was the right thing to do in intervening in Libya”.

Yes, sure. this sentence it is understood that he invaded Libya for justice and freedom, like the white knights of love that the Americans are, but, oh!, he was too naive and did not calculate well.

No, the plan worked perfectly. Gaddafi made a gesture of rebellion when he approached China, his country was destroyed and the oil was controlled. Quick and effective. But what would happen to Saint Obama if China and Russia say: no, this oil is not yours, it belongs to a sovereign country and it has decided to sell it to me. And they send their army? It's easy be the bully when nobody has capacity of response, but if they have, everything is different  . Now the world is not unipolar anymore, the inflexion point is Ukraine, the stupid movement of Biden that marks the beginning of a new era

 

What annoys me about the US is the lies.

“we bring them democracy“(while supporting dictatorships which benefit them)

“weapons of mass destruction“

to me if the US were more honest and would say something like

“nobody is a good guy we are all selfish but at least with us you have more freedom of speech, freedom in art and expression while in China, Russia none basically because they are paranoid“

or 

„we just really want and need those rare earth minerals. So we are willing to make a deal which does benefit both. But if you won’t we still will take them because we need it for tech and industry“

I could respect that a lot more.

And what’s funny is that actually the Trumpet does say these things more honestly sometimes.

Edited yesterday at 11:26 AM by PurpleTree

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

What annoys me about the US is the lies.

“we bring them democracy“(while supporting dictatorships which benefit them)

“weapons of mass destruction“

to me if the US were more honest and would say something like

“nobody is a good guy we are all selfish but at least with us you have more freedom of speech, freedom in art and expression while in China, Russia none basically because they are paranoid“

or 

„we just really want and need those rare earth minerals. So we are willing to make a deal which does benefit both. But if you won’t we still will take them because we need it for tech and industry“

I could respect that a lot more.

And what’s funny is that actually the Trumpet does say these things more honestly sometimes.

Exactly, it's difficult to say, but maybe trump is what they need. The lying vampires psychopaths petting the kitten while stabbing it are just too disgusting