WTF is immortality

[Hojo]

@The Crocodile I telling it how it is. Truth is scary. The theme of my life is death. I saw it and now I'm telling what I saw. And I am obsessed with the void yes. It is the only real thing.

Edited Friday at 05:48 PM by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Someone here said:

You are absolute static eternal consciousness.  The human persona and its life and Linear time only exists in appearances. There isn't actually a past and a future. Like how a movie progresses even though the screen is absolutely and completely static.

If you are static conciousness, why all this mess exist?

 Realizing that you are the consciousness is what is called the observer stage. You don't believe that you are the person but the witness who witnesses reality, the subject receiving the experience. So, what is the experience?

Edited Friday at 08:31 PM by Breakingthewall

[The Crocodile]

6 hours ago, Hojo said:

@The Crocodile I telling it how it is. Truth is scary. The theme of my life is death. I saw it and now I'm telling what I saw. And I am obsessed with the void yes. It is the only real thing.

Delusional, you stumbled on a partial truth and twist it to serve your demented tendencies. Life is fundamental, not death. Light is fundamental, not darkness. Or they come all from a Sachichananda that supersedes them all and is undefinable.

[Hojo]

@The Crocodile Life is the void. Close your eyes bro. What the fuck do you see ALL THE TIME. Your entire life??? You arent out there you are in the void right now as life looking into a pool of light that never stays the same. The light goes away the darkness never goes away. Thats the point of spirituality is coming to terms with this.

We are all a void looking into the light. The void is heaven and you are in it right now.

You are delusional.

Edited yesterday at 12:17 AM by Hojo

[The Crocodile]

@Hojo You nincompoop, the Void and the color black are not the same. Also because of my advanced spiritual and occult state I don't see darkness when I close my eyes. If I'm in a dark room it's full of light. You have no idea what you're talking about and should reread what I said with the absolute knowledge that it's true and just leave it at that?

Aren't you a trump supporter or something? No wonder.

[Hojo]

@The Crocodile No you just see one thing about a person and make up a life story like a trump supporter does. I don't like trump I think he is an idiot and has no idea what he is doing. I am left wing but I believe in democracy and God. God does whatever the fuck it wants and you better try to look at things that havent happened in a good light or else fight with it like a retard.

The information is in the darkness. The darkness is consciousness. It contains all information it dosent need light. What you are seeing is darkness.

Why do you need a black room or to close your eyes? That must be because you arent looking at light you are looking at darkness.

Edited yesterday at 12:32 AM by Hojo

[Someone here]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

If you are static conciousness, why all this mess exist?

Not sure what is being asked. 

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

the subject receiving the experience. So, what is the experience?

Well it's tricky . You are both the experience and the experiencer . Your true self is like empty pure consciousness (think of deep sleep ). The waking state +the dreaming state wherein there are perceptions and perceiver are superimposed upon the deep sleep state which is pure eternal consciousness. It doesn't change .from the perspective of pure consciousness there is no experience..no birth ..no death..no life ..no nothing.  Nothing has ever happened. Your entire life is a thought .

Edited yesterday at 12:29 AM by Someone here

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

doesn't change .from the perspective of pure consciousness there is no experience..no birth ..no death..no life ..no nothing.  Nothing has ever happened. Your entire life is a thought .

Well you could say that, but If your entire life is a thought, it's something that happened, as a thought. The point is not defining what are you, is realizing the substance of what you are. The substance is the point, it's in every perspective. Then if you die, nothing dies because you are the substance, but the substance is hidden by the movement. That doesn't mean that movement is illusory, means that is transitory. The substance is absolute, and the only happiness is being open to it, everything else is suffering. And the design is such that it's very difficult to be open to it

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well you could say that, but If your entire life is a thought, it's something that happened, as a thought. The point is not defining what are you, is realizing the substance of what you are. The substance is the point, it's in every perspective. Then if you die, nothing dies because you are the substance, but the substance is hidden by the movement. That doesn't mean that movement is illusory, means that is transitory. The substance is absolute, and the only happiness is being open to it, everything else is suffering. And the design is such that it's very difficult to be open to it

Think of a dream . In a dream there's obviously something existing but only inside the context of the dream. Yet once you exit the dream it's crystal clear to you that nothing was there .the whole experience of a dream was nothing . Agree ?

Now ..Unfortunately you only realize this after you wake up . Analogously..this experience that you call "real life " is nothing . awakening is to grasp this while you are still alive . Instead of waiting for this revelation to occur when you "die ".

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

awakening is to grasp this while you are still alive . Instead of waiting for this revelation to occur when you "die ".

No, dream or reality are the same, they are movement. Awakening is realizing yourself trough the movement, open yourself up to what you are, the substance. Define the movement as illusory is a definition that happens in the movement, your substance is beyond the movement

[Someone here]

@Breakingthewall dude I'm done with you .you win. Your spiritual dick is way bigger than mine . Have the last word ! Take care .

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Breakingthewall dude I'm done with you .you win. Your spiritual dick is way bigger than mine . Have the last word ! Take care .

You didn't understand what I said, I don't want to win you, I want to make you see that you are looking in the wrong direction. You are trying to understand reality, it's impossible because understanding is an arising that happens in reality, the way is openess, there is the only way, breaking all your walls and see yourself. Conciousness is always, but it's veiled. If you would say: I'm realizing that of the dream in the path to open myself, Then could be ok, but you say: I'm enlightened, because I understand how reality works, then it's wrong because understanding is in the reality, a sistem can't be understood from inside

[The Crocodile]

58 minutes ago, Hojo said:

The information is in the darkness. The darkness is consciousness. It contains all information it dosent need light. What you are seeing is darkness.

Why do you need a black room or to close your eyes? That must be because you arent looking at light you are looking at darkness.

You could say "the information is in the light. The light is consciousness. It contains all information it dosent need darkness. What you are seeing is darkness.

I don't need a black room or to close my eyes.

I could see it eyes wide open awake sober walking around in the daytime.

[Princess Arabia]

9 hours ago, Someone here said:

If you actually "do the work " instead of mentally masturbating and being so full of yourself doubting this stuff ..you will realize that you are not the body  .this is ABC spirituality #101. How could you be the body when it's always changing ? Science tells us the every 10 years all of our cells get replaced by new ones.  So how can you be the same body throughout the course of your life? You are that which is aware of the body.  This will take you just 30 minutes everyday of practicing meditation to realize.  But unfortunately you are not doing the work to awaken . You are just here to doubt everything and everyone.  And to teach and school everyone .Which is kinda sad to see.

There is no work to do, no one that's not the body and no one that is aware of the body. I used to believe in all that crap too, but it's not the case. You have meditated 30mins/day to realize nothing. THERE IS NO ONE, PERIOD. Energetically, it feels like there is and it's deeply embodied but there's no one inside of these bodies, it's whatever this is talking and responding. There's no awareness because there's nobody being aware of anything because that's separation. Never mind, doesn't matter. It's just this stupid game of talk, respond, object, rebut, explain, deny, explain some more for eternity because it has nothing else to do and nowhere to go. Same shit different day. All the same. Forget it, you're right. I'm not playing this silly game anymore of explaining to nobody about what can't be understood or known. Don't you see the fucking trick of it all. We will be explaining to each other about doing the work and realizing this and that for an infinite eternity. That's what THIS does. Unfortunately, there is no escaping this bullshit because it's all there is so you might as well go jerk off.

Edited yesterday at 02:11 AM by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

You didn't understand what I said, I don't want to win you, I want to make you see that you are looking in the wrong direction.

Doesn't matter. It's reality fooling itself and playing fucking games with itself, just like me telling you as reality and trying to tell you it doesn't matter when it's you all along. This fucking game has turned us all into dumbwits and there's no escape because anywhere you go it's it and any thing you say its it and everyone you talk to is it.

Edited yesterday at 02:20 AM by Princess Arabia

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

This fucking game gas turned us all into dumbwits and there's no escape

There is the total opening to yourself. That that's called enlightenment. The holy thing. 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

There is the total opening to yourself. That that's called enlightenment. The holy thing. 

I have opened to the realization that there's nothing really happening and that I'm dead.

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I have opened to the realization that there's nothing really happening and that I'm dead.

Very good, thats the previous step to open yourself and realize that you are the life without bottom, and then opening your heart and realizing that the substance of life is the absolute pure holy light that you are in essence 

Get deep in the absolute void until you get through it

Edited yesterday at 02:28 AM by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Very good, thats the previous step to open yourself and realize that you are the life without bottom, and then opening your heart and realizing that the substance of life is the absolute pure holy light that you are in essence 

Bullshit. There's no one to realize anything other than it never existed. There's no one here that can open itself unless the  Absolute appears as someone opening itself and that can only happen now. I don't know what this is and neither can you. This is why it plays these fucking games. It doesn't know itself and cannot know itself. There is no me thats life without bottom. The heart is within the body and the body isn't real. There is no actual heart only the Absolute appearing as a memory of a heart idea. Have you ever seen your heart.

Edited yesterday at 02:35 AM by Princess Arabia

[integral]

You are immortal because you are existence itself. That’s the jist of it.

The only thing Knowable is that something exists, something is happening, not that any of it is comprehended.

it is obvious that something exists.

and that’s what you are, existence.

Edited yesterday at 03:37 AM by integral