My Shamanic Breathing Was A Complete Failure...

[Nito]

I recently watched Leo's technique from his YouTube Video "Shamanic Breathing". I read dozens of comments talking about the crazy experiences people had with the breathing after doing only 30minutes and so I decided I wanted to try it.

I did the breathing for 30m straight expecting something to happen and so I layed there breathing as long as I could, unfortunately, to my disappointment, literally nothing happened apart from a few tingles in my body and a horrible ringing in my ears.

I'm not blaming the technique at all, I think I know why it failed, and if it's ok with you guys I'd love to ask a few questions about the breathing technique so next time goes better!

1) When doing the breathing, my throat became super dry despite drinking water beforehand. Due to the dryness I had to take 2 second breaks every few minutes to moisten my throat by gulping and to catch my breath. I'm wondering if this stopped the full effects of the breathing from occuring? Since surely within 30m i should've experienced more?

2) Is shamanic breathing safe? I don't have any health issues, so I know nothing serious can happen to me, but what about even the minimal long term health risks? Is there any? 

3) Does anyone have any idea why the ringing happened to my ears and if it's bad? Whether it's bad or not does anyone have any idea how to stop it?

Appreciate your reply a ton, thank you so much, this means a lot to me 💘

[LambdaDelta]

It's been awhile since I've done this, and only a few times. 

The compounding of effects is indeed a thing, if you stop you basically have to start over. Maybe pace your breaths slower. It is physically safe, but the effects it can produce may not be. As described in the video, all sorts of trauma release and stuff could come out. The first time I did the technique I entered a delirious state, spiders started crawling on my ceiling, and I had to flee the room. So falling out of a window during a panic attack and similar incidents are possibilities, consider how those could be minimized. It's not likely to happen, but better safe than sorry.

The ringing isn't bad per se, I actually enjoy it. I now get it while falling deeply asleep, as well as when taking dissociatives. To me it's a mark of a state shift, towards concentration, so it's great. So long as it doesn't turn into a permanent tinnitus, it's all good. That's a very remote possibility, I wouldn't be too concerned about it. 

[Nito]

@LambdaDelta I see, thank you for the reply.Dman the spiders thing sounds awful.

And do i really need to start over even if I only stop for 2 seconds to catch my breath? Just 2 seconds is enough to mess it up?     bare in mind I have to take 2 seconds every few minutes xd.      

Man how the f do people do this breathing for over 1h30m without a break is crazy

[Davino]

@Nito Try this playlist 

 

 

[Aaron p]

Do not go near techniques that cause your ears to ring. You can use other ones. You could give yourself tinnitus. (Can be permanent, constant ringing in ears, until death). Just be aware of that.

 

This is improbable but if any spiritual methods cause ringing in ears more than 2 or 3 times...be mindful. 

 

 

 

Improbable 

Edited Friday at 10:30 PM by Aaron p

[OBEler]

22 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

Do not go near techniques that cause your ears to ring. You can use other ones. You could give yourself tinnitus. (Can be permanent, constant ringing in ears, until death). Just be aware of that.

 

This is improbable but if any spiritual methods cause ringing in ears more than 2 or 3 times...be mindful. 

 

 

 

Improbable 

How do you know that a shift in consciousness which produces ringing in ear can lead to Tinnitus, just an assumption?

In my opinion this is totally normal and will not cause Tinnitus. Because it's just natural that if your consciousness shifts you can hear all kind of mind noise.

[The Crocodile]

@Nito The mouthbreathing technique Leo gave was his own personal thing, because he found it difficult to breath through his nose, but it dries out the mouth and throat so can't be done too long and has a weakened effect.

Proper pranayama could be more like slow natural inhale through nose, sharp exhale, fast or slow, repeat that til you get the strong tactile effects like burning, cold, electricity, trembling, bubbling, etc. then hold the breath as it gets too intense and observe the effects peacefully or use it as an energy force, then start again.

There's also alternate nostril to balance the hemispheres of the energy system, you breathe in through left nostril by closing the right with your thumb, hold the breath, put it out through the right side, then come back through the middle again and out the left, repeat. With certain ratios, like inhale 4, hold 8, exhale 4.

You can also use both nostrils. Like looking at a timer, inhale for 12 seconds, hold for 12 seconds, exhale for 12 seconds, hold for 12 seconds, repeat that for two hours. So a ratio of 12:12:12:12.

Or more advanced inhale 1 minute, hold 1 minute, exhale 1 minute, hold 1 minute, repeat for four hours. The effects get more extreme tactilely, visually, auditorily, and so on into spiritual and occult shifts of perception upward.

Watch for any big clouds of light you'll see, or electricity in the body. Remember this is not pretending, it's the real deal.

[Nito]

@Davino Thank you ill check it out for sure today

@Aaron p  Thank you for the warning, if it happens again ill be stopping the breathing forever

@OBEler is it really normal for people to experience the ear ringing when their consciousness raises? either way, i dont think that happened for me, i believe it was from the breathing since ive experienced this ringing before when doing a different kind of breathing 

@The Crocodile i see thanks so much for explaining this. A few quick questions if you don't mind. Where can i find a video that explains how to do this type of breathing, since i'd love to do it 1x a week to get the benefits of healing trauma etc...
1) what is the big cloud of light? is it just like a literal cloud of light that covers your vision? and why should i be careful of it? is it dangerous?
2) what do you mean by electricity as a side effect and why do you need to be careful of it xd? All i can think of is when i used to play on trampolines and got an electric shock lol 
3) what should i do if i experience this cloud of light or electricity? im guessing immediately stop breathing?  and should i even do the breathwork ever again if i expeirence that lol

4) whats the difference between all the different breathing techniques and methods you explained to me in your comment? Like is there any different benefits or potency between the different kinds of methods?      or different pros and cons?     im trying to look for the higher ROI/80/20 of this breathwork stuff so ill prob only need one of them haha...  unless they go up in levels of potency, in that case i should start with the weaker ones if that even matters

 

ps. is it weird that i replied to you all within the same comment by @ing you all lol? 

[The Crocodile]

2 hours ago, Nito said:

@Davino

@The Crocodile i see thanks so much for explaining this. A few quick questions if you don't mind. Where can i find a video that explains how to do this type of breathing, since i'd love to do it 1x a week to get the benefits of healing trauma etc...
1) what is the big cloud of light? is it just like a literal cloud of light that covers your vision? and why should i be careful of it? is it dangerous?
2) what do you mean by electricity as a side effect and why do you need to be careful of it xd? All i can think of is when i used to play on trampolines and got an electric shock lol 
3) what should i do if i experience this cloud of light or electricity? im guessing immediately stop breathing?  and should i even do the breathwork ever again if i expeirence that lol

4) whats the difference between all the different breathing techniques and methods you explained to me in your comment? Like is there any different benefits or potency between the different kinds of methods?      or different pros and cons?     im trying to look for the higher ROI/80/20 of this breathwork stuff so ill prob only need one of them haha...  unless they go up in levels of potency, in that case i should start with the weaker ones if that even matters

 

ps. is it weird that i replied to you all within the same comment by @ing you all lol? 

The big cloud of light is a literal light you could see, and it's good. I'd also say the ringing is good, and the electricity is good. It means you're actually having a perceptual shift upward and expanding your perception and gaining access to energy and other planes, or working with the nervous system. There's no reason to be afraid of it, as materialism is untrue, and you can gain a much higher perception through accessing other planes.

The different methods I gave, I'd say experiment with them in the order I gave and just see what they do and if you want to do them.

[Aaron p]

18 hours ago, OBEler said:

How do you know that a shift in consciousness which produces ringing in ear can lead to Tinnitus, just an assumption?

In my opinion this is totally normal and will not cause Tinnitus. Because it's just natural that if your consciousness shifts you can hear all kind of mind noise.

@OBEler it's just god spoken to me about tinnitus and how horrible it is and anything that increases that risk even slightly (while not necessarily stopping the entire practice) should be at least noted in awareness. 

There are also things that can happen to the eyes with prolonged and recurring use of psychedelics and drugs you can get permanent floaters it's just something to be mindful of. Is chemicals are extremely Powerful

[The Crocodile]

15 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

@OBEler it's just god spoken to me about tinnitus and how horrible it is and anything that increases that risk even slightly (while not necessarily stopping the entire practice) should be at least noted in awareness. 

There are also things that can happen to the eyes with prolonged and recurring use of psychedelics and drugs you can get permanent floaters it's just something to be mindful of. Is chemicals are extremely Powerful

Tinnitus is good.

You are a nincompoop.

It just sounds like you don't believe in the real thing?

You're a materialist and a trump supporter?

Let him close the ears with his thumbs …. This is my most beloved Yoga. From practicing this gradually, the Yogi begins to hear mystic sounds (nadas).  The first sound is like the hum of the honey-intoxicated bee (matta-bhrnga), next that of a flute  (venu), then of a harp (vina); after this, by the gradual practice of Yoga, the destroyer of the darkness of the world, he hears the sounds of ringing bells (ghanta) then sounds like roar of thunder (megha).

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, The Crocodile said:

Tinnitus is good.

You are a nincompoop.

It just sounds like you don't believe in the real thing?

You're a materialist and a trump supporter?

Lol

[Nito]

@The Crocodile I see ty for explaining. The way you said it in your previous comment I thought the electricity and light cloud would kill me lol. 
Also you said in your reply to the other guy that Tinnitus is good? Was you joking or what did you mean by that? Since im now scared of causing myself that

Idk what that paragrapjh you said below is, but it seems like it's saying the sounds are good? Not too sure if any of these talk about the rining I was experiencing tho. im not sure

4 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

Let him close the ears with his thumbs …. This is my most beloved Yoga. From practicing this gradually, the Yogi begins to hear mystic sounds (nadas).  The first sound is like the hum of the honey-intoxicated bee (matta-bhrnga), next that of a flute  (venu), then of a harp (vina); after this, by the gradual practice of Yoga, the destroyer of the darkness of the world, he hears the sounds of ringing bells (ghanta) then sounds like roar of thunder (megha).

 

[Aaron p]

5 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

Tinnitus is good.

You are a nincompoop.

It just sounds like you don't believe in the real thing?

You're a materialist and a trump supporter?

Let him close the ears with his thumbs …. This is my most beloved Yoga. From practicing this gradually, the Yogi begins to hear mystic sounds (nadas).  The first sound is like the hum of the honey-intoxicated bee (matta-bhrnga), next that of a flute  (venu), then of a harp (vina); after this, by the gradual practice of Yoga, the destroyer of the darkness of the world, he hears the sounds of ringing bells (ghanta) then sounds like roar of thunder (megha).

Megha? That sounds suspiciously close to Maga.Are you the imposter?

 

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