Vynce

Thoughts on survival

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Everyone seems to be going around moralizing the shit out of others and their different survival strategies. 

Leo's blog for example seems to be hyper-judgemental of anything ignorant, untruthful and damaging towards Leo's agenda. Which is probably the better agenda for the good of us collectively but still. 


But my point is that no one, not even the most unconscious amoeba living on the ocean floor and its perspective is free of having to follow some survival agenda. 
So all this moralizing can go dump itself in the trash. Because who are you to moralize. Show me ONE being, or thing without any survival agenda. 
Except God but none of us knows any shit about God. So let’s rule it out for now. 

My point is that moralizing the other survival agendas as bad is itself a survival strategy. And everyone claims that he has the best strategy for the world.

Of course if I want to live, and live in a good orderly world, I have to accept the clash of survival. 

How to cope with the clash, if I really just want to be a peaceful non-harming, plant eating monk..

 

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Just now, Vynce said:

Everyone seems to be going around moralizing the shit out of others and their different survival strategies. 

Seems like a blanket statement-what examples do you have?

Leo's teachings have taught me how to make nuance distinctions between survival and Truth-which has done wonders in making me more intelligent.

Survival is done on a spectrum, some of it is more ego based than others. The point is not to demonize survival, but also to not bullshit ourselves into thinking survival has anything to do with Truth & Goodness.

All of this assumes you value things like Truth, Goodness & Intelligence .. but it's totally okay not to.

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In Instagram is usual to see comments like "OnlyFan Detected". Mainly from women towards other women and girls who post videos that looks like OF propaganda. In one of this acusations the girl was not a OF influencer but a girl owner of her own brand of Intimate Clothes selling her brand with herself using the bras and panties in of course very spicy videos. 

Personaly if I was a hot girl in this day and age I would have a OF page and showy body online as I wished. Of course maybe I wound not be interessed in Absolute Truth or realizing God or whatever, but that would be my life. That is and will be the life of many Instantiations of God, God as a OF girl making her money out of her body image and the generosity of some horny people. Some people simply cant accept that survival strategy, or are maybe evious of it hehe.

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21 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Of course maybe I wound not be interessed in Absolute Truth or realizing God or whatever,

This is why spirituality is bullshit and humans can never be anything but moralizing, judgemental and critical. Absolute is the OF page and the girl selling whatever she's selling. Realizing God has nothing to do with what is. We're always comparing and measuring what we think is needed to recognize what's staring us in the face. Let's go meditate and go to Satsang and maybe we'll become more conscious and recognize God while the OF girl is living life as life intended. Just as going to satsang and meditation, but it's the mind that thinks one is more conscious than the other and means nothing different to life itself. 


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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I agree with this post. Totally. We are all individuals who thinks we're separate and have a separate life and with that comes certain things and the need to survive one's story and build upon it's construction. Doesn't matter what or who has helped who because that's all relative and has only helped to help with your survival strategy also. There's no one here with a neutral perspective or who doesn't have any personal biases, so whatever comes from that individual is tainted and veiled. Nothing wrong with any of this but it can never be truth, just what is. The search for truth will also be veiled and tainted as there's also a personal reason for this quest. There is no such thing as Truth because truth is just what is. There's no such thing as falsehood in what is, only on the personal level and reality is not personal. 

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What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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Arguably, morality itself serves a function of human survival, namely cooperation. Would you want to be neighbors with a known rapist or serial killer? Its quiet crucial to uphold morality when you think about it as a way to moderate behavior that doesn't serve the community. Why else do you get outraged at a rape or a murder in your neighborhood? Its like you've been wounded personally, and you can only heal once the perpetrator has been stopped. Because it could happen to you and your loved ones. Notice how everything that is considered immoral are things that are adversarial to survival. Morality is inescapably human. We just don't always agree what is and isn't immoral due to differing biases and goals.

Other animals have no regard concerning morality. They are de facto non-moral agents unlike us humans. They have no need to entertain the sensibilities of its kin, doth the crocodile will eat your screaming children and sleep like an angel all in the same day just to forget it even happened in due time, like it was just another Wednesday. Do you remember what you ate last week? Or the week before? Your children are delicious, see, so its a simple matter. And the more they scream and squirm, the more it excites the hunt.

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