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3 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

Unrelated to above - when people ask Ken Wapnick what to do with things like video games and other desires — as they know that to get enlightened they need to let go of it all — Ken says to enjoy ur games, the final letting go happens at the end of the journey, when you’re old and ready to leave, not before. Makes sense. I tried to forcefully do it - doesn’t work, but it did show me that I can reach Nirvana purely by total commitment. Cool beans man.

It's not necessary to wait till old age in my experience. I've been celibate for 5+ years now. Anime/video games free for about 2-3 years only tho(sounds like a small number but it feels like ages to me lol). Surprisingly the hardest addiction to overcome for me are the cookies. Apparently I'm a cookie monster lol. But it's definitely possible to go beyond these things. 

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59 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

It's not necessary to wait till old age in my experience. I've been celibate for 5+ years now. Anime/video games free for about 2-3 years only tho(sounds like a small number but it feels like ages to me lol). Surprisingly the hardest addiction to overcome for me are the cookies. Apparently I'm a cookie monster lol. But it's definitely possible to go beyond these things. 

😁😁😁 wait the cookie part is so funny


“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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Current contemplation: 

 

1. Life is a dream 

2. I am dreaming it. 

3. Dreams are made of thoughts.  

4. To create a Divine, Blessed dream - I need to think Divine, Blessed thoughts. Like I really have to be obsessed about maintaining a Divine Thought System. 

5. Profit. 
 

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“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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@Salvijus as I see it - if you need to fight it, then it’s not time to let go. It’s more like a child outgrowing old toys. When you raise your level of consciousness you just play different, more enjoyable games. 


“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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@Buck Edwards actually, changed my mind - it is! 
 

well, kinda.  
 

I created a vid about it, it’s a bit nuanced, will share it later 

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“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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3 minutes ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

@Buck Edwards actually, changed my mind - it is! 
 

well, kinda.  
 

I created a vid about it, it’s a bit nuanced, will share it later 

Okay 


My name is Whitney and I am from North Carolina. 

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2 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

@Salvijus as I see it - if you need to fight it, then it’s not time to let go. It’s more like a child outgrowing old toys. When you raise your level of consciousness you just play different, more enjoyable games. 

I guess there's some truth to it. But it sounds like a super slow path. 


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1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

I guess there's some truth to it. But it sounds like a super slow path. 

I might be in the slow class.. 

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Haha

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“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. For I am always there with you, in remembrance of you.”

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I just wanted to clarify if I understand Gary and Apostles. This is one of the best videos; he clearly says it's all about thoughts, not just Presence and looking at your ego, which is what Keith Kavanagh teaches.

So, which one is right in his application of forgiveness? Keith or Gary?

They are vastly different—one uses the power of the mind to become an observer, and the other uses the mind to think with the Holy Spirit.  

Based on the metaphysics of ACIM, I believe that Gary's or the Apostle's method is correct.

Keith teaches basically the same that Eckhart does, and Spira - become Presence.  In the Apostle's teaching - they say Silence, aka meditation, helps to undo the separation, but it shouldn't be the main focus. 

Oh, Gary also mentions that thoughts come first and experience follows - so that's manifestation. Still, according to him, it's best to focus on forgiveness to awaken from the dream by healing unconscious guilt instead of using the power of the mind to create a better guilty dream. You can still improve the dream, but it's not the main focus.

When you think with the thought system of the Holy Spirit - when you are in control of your mind - you get inspired ideas, since you are in the frequency of love, and that helps to improve the dream as well, together with Spirit removing parts of the dream that are no longer necessary since you completed that forgiveness lesson

 


“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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Hmm, okay, so Ken keeps talking about thoughts much more than being the observer - I think observing your ego is just the beginning - to recognise it so you could let it go. Then, you have to exchange the thought system of the ego for the thought system of the Holy Spirit. Oke, getting more clarity now. So Keith's teachings are not it. He superimposed Eckhart Tolle's teachings on top of ACIM's, and that's what you get - a forgiveness of Ekchart Tolle type  - staying in the now and looking at the ego, instead of using the mind under the Guidance of the Holy Spirit to heal. 

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“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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8 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

 

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Wow, out of all the people you quote this is the only one I fully resonate with. This one is legit. His understanding of the course is super clean, it's butters to my ears. 

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3 hours ago, Salvijus said:

Wow, out of all the people you quote this is the only one I fully resonate with. This one is legit. His understanding of the course is super clean, it's butters to my ears. 

Oh yes Ken Wapnick is amazing.  
 

Here’s thousands of questions answered by him if u want to read more from him:  http://helpfulpeople.danceolife.com/Docs and PDF files/Q&A_Detailed Answers to Student-Generated Questions on the Theory and Practice of A Course in Miracles .pdf

 

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“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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Gary Renard: “Without a thought system, the mind will run wild.” 
 

I used to think: ok so what is it - forgiveness - do I just stay mindfull and try to be Silence, since forgiveness is still and quetly does nothing, or do I think specific thoughts, like Apostles teach.  
 

As usual, the mind wants to go to one or the other extreme. I’ve found that it works best to combine these two and they work synergistically. If you think the thoughts of the Holy Spirit - your mind itself becomes more peaceful and joyful, and then it’s easier to sink deeper into the stillness. But this system also allows you to live a normal life and still practice forgiveness, there’s no need for seclusion. 


“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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The method to hear the holy thoughts is this: become still and ask, "holy spirit, what would you have me say or do here?", "holy spirit, what is the truth here?" and wait upon the lord to fill your mind with the holy thoughts from the place of a holy instant. It's both a practice of presence and prayer combined. 

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3 hours ago, Salvijus said:

The method to hear the holy thoughts is this: become still and ask, "holy spirit, what would you have me say or do here?", "holy spirit, what is the truth here?" and wait upon the lord to fill your mind with the holy thoughts from the place of a holy instant. It's both a practice of presence and prayer combined. 

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“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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Been contemplating resistance.  
 

David Hoffmeister said that when he asked Jesus why do I leave this place of love in my mind? What happens? Jesus said to him: there’s still resistance - you still want to believe that you were right in your previous interpretation. No one wants to be told they were wrong all of their life about everything. That’s why he says do you want to be right or happy? 
 

I didnt really get it at that time, but now I begin to. If I gave ACIM to my grandma and said this is truth. When she’s reading it there would be soo much resistence in her mind because Jesus would contradict every single belief she had, and she prouds herself on being right, as an old and wise person. She does ‘t want to be wrong, even if this wrong-minded perception of herself, the world and others is destroying her mind and her body. 

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“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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We are blessed and Holy.  

We walk together with our innocent brothers and sisters to the sacred land we never truly left. 
 
The Holy Spirit is our Guide. It’s gentle and comforting hand embraces us into it’s celestial body.

If we follow Her pointers, she reveals the Kingdom of Heaven forever secure within our magnificient minds.

Then, Bliss drips down from the skies to the top of our heads, filling our immortal bodies with harmony and light.   

We are very Holy.
 

 


“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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It’s so so important to remove all conflict from our lives - both inside and out.

 
I remember taking LSD and spending 3 days and 3 nights next to a church, in a little hut they have for prayer. I needed no sleep nor food - the Love of God was coursing through my body, filling me up better than anything else could. 
 

On the second day I sat upon a rock at the bottom of the church. The church is next to a cemetery. A child threw a stick into the cemetery. I wanted to tell him to not do that, as it is a sacred place. Then, a queit voice whispered: “No conflict. No conflict.” 
 

I understood and let it go.  
 

There is nothing in this world that is worth losing our innocence and friendship over. 


“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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I wonder.. If God is Love, can you really awaken without adhering to a perfectly loving, non-judgemental and kind thought system? Isn’t kindness a very accurate measuring stick for spiritual developement?


“When you meet anyone, remember it is a holy encounter. As you see him you will see yourself. As you treat him you will treat yourself. As you think of him you will think of yourself. Never forget this, for in him you will find yourself or lose yourself. Whenever two Sons of God meet, they are given another chance at salvation. Do not leave anyone without giving salvation to him and receiving it yourself. “ -Jesus

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