Should I leave Mexico?

[Twentyfirst]

13 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

Probably something to do with the West I bet

Well Westerners are the main customers of cartels which fuel the entire supply chain from bottom to top and all the violence that comes along with that. What happens when you give drug lords billions of dollars every week by buying their products 

[The Crocodile]

2 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Well Westerners are the main customers of cartels which fuel the entire supply chain from bottom to top and all the violence that comes along with that. What happens when you give drug lords billions of dollars every week by buying their products 

Which is why the solution is legalization of drugs.

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

Which is why the solution is legalization of drugs.

There are drugs too dangerous to be legally sold in shops, like methamphetamine, heroin, fentanyl, and cocaine I'd say the same. Alcohol is dangerous too, but it's in our culture and people is used to it, but it could destroy a culture, like the American natives 

[The Crocodile]

24 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

There are drugs too dangerous to be legally sold in shops, like methamphetamine, heroin, fentanyl, and cocaine I'd say the same. Alcohol is dangerous too, but it's in our culture and people is used to it, but it could destroy a culture, like the American natives 

All of those drugs should be legal.

That's what legalization of drugs means.

To put the cartels out of business give people freedom, if someone chooses to die that is their choice.

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, The Crocodile said:

All of those drugs should be legal.

That's what legalization of drugs means.

To put the cartels out of business give people freedom, if someone chooses to die that is their choice.

Then have a mass of psychotic people addicted to methamphetamine who rape and kill, as happened in the Philippines, and a guy like Duterte has to come along and say that his electoral program consists of killing a hundred thousand people, dealers and users, to eradicate the plague. He's is the most loved politician in that country btw

[The Crocodile]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then have a mass of psychotic people addicted to methamphetamine who rape and kill, as happened in the Philippines, and a guy like Duterte has to come along and say that his electoral program consists of killing a hundred thousand people, dealers and users, to eradicate the plague. He's is the most loved politician in that country btw

I don't think you understand the implications of drugs being legal rather than an underground thing.

[Basman]

8 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

I don't think you understand the implications of drugs being legal rather than an underground thing.

If you could eradicate the supply then that would be even more effective if you think about it. Pull the issue up by the roots.

[Breakingthewall]

19 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

I don't think you understand the implications of drugs being legal rather than an underground thing.

Who understands this, if it's something that never was be tried? Do you think that people in EEUU is mature enough to have fentanyl in the pharmacy? Or methamphetamine?

Edited 6 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[The Crocodile]

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Who understands this, if it's something that never was be tried? Do you think that people in EEUU is mature enough to have fentanyl in the pharmacy? Or methamphetamine?

Well, when you're smart you can figure things out, you know.

22 minutes ago, Basman said:

If you could eradicate the supply then that would be even more effective if you think about it. Pull the issue up by the roots.

Eradicate a supply with war, bloodshed, and waste of money and international uncooperation?

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

Well, when you're smart you can figure things out, you know.

Imagine that a substance appears that make the people become psychopath killers, would you sell it freely in the shops?

[The Crocodile]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Imagine that a substance appears that make the people become psychopath killers, would you sell it freely in the shops?

Well, people already take amphetamines legally in the US as ADHD meds, and they don't turn into psychopath killers.

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, The Crocodile said:

Well, people already take amphetamines legally in the US as ADHD meds, and they don't turn into psychopath killers.

It's different than others substances. Not all the drugs are the same. People have kids, it's bad that a father or a mother is addicted to methamphetamine or fentanyl 

[The Crocodile]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

It's different than others substances. Not all the drugs are the same. People have kids, it's bad that a father or a mother is addicted to methamphetamine or fentanyl 

I said amphetamines.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, The Crocodile said:

I said amphetamines.

Amphetamines are different than methamphetamine, absolutely different, or than fentanyl.

[The Crocodile]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Amphetamines are different than methamphetamine, absolutely different

No, they aren't, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

No, they aren't, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Then amphetamines are the same than fentanyl? Well ok. 

[LordFall]

What is your income? You should work on gaining an online income especially now that with crypto you can carry this money in a decentralized way globally. Once you're making 5-20k/monthly online it doesn't really matter where you live you're basically a free citizen at that point. 

[Twentyfirst]

3 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

Which is why the solution is legalization of drugs.

You missed my first point. Why do people want hardcore drugs in the first place? I never wanted or needed them

By hardcore I mean the cartel drugs such as meth, heroin, crack, fentanyl 

Don't you think it's better to get rid of the demand from the consumer side rather than getting rid of the supply from the producer side or legalizing it on the both side

Edited 4 hours ago by Twentyfirst

[Basman]

5 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

Eradicate a supply with war, bloodshed, and waste of money and international uncooperation?

The drug cartels are essentially militant cults that undermine society through violence and exploitation. Its justified to combat it in a way that is of course legal depending on the severity of the situation, which you could argue that it isn't severe enough to justify a full-scale invasion but that isn't the only card on deck necessarily.

If the drug cartels continue to expand their corrosive influence and destabilize Latin-America than it'll be increasingly harder to justify inaction.

[Basman]

Most if not all hard drugs have no genuine and wholesome use and are a net negative to society in my opinion and we would be better of without them. Legalizing these drugs will only serve to engender their use and the deterioration of the community.

Edited 52 minutes ago by Basman