Mega-Thread of Low vs High Perspectives

[Terell Kirby]

Hope we get more posts here! Studying these perspectives is fun 

[Terell Kirby]

High Perspective- notice how Bernie concisely goes through the acts of devilry from the Trump Administration. He isn't just make blanket truth claims-he's giving you the exact policy and the larger impact on society.

Feature: Direct, Systems thinking, holistic thinking, based on realities of policy decisions, provides a vision for the future, no nonsense / no bullshit / no games.

Edited February 4 by Terell Kirby

[Terell Kirby]

Low perspective: progressive pastor fear mongering about immigrant and trans crucifixion under Trump regime:

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/04/nx-s1-5227288/dei-trump-church-pastor-racial-justice
 

Feature- ideological, doesn’t read the room, ego projection, fear mongering, fantastical, overly utopian, doesn’t consider less evolved perspectives/demonizes perspectives lower than it. 

 

[LoneWonderer]

This was originally shared in a different thread by another user of the forum but re-posting it here as a great higher perspective example.

[Leo Gura]

Duffy Strode:

 

 

[Leo Gura]

 

[Leo Gura]

Pastor Greg Locke:

 

 

[Terell Kirby]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Pastor Greg Locke:

 

haha the way he came at Joe Biden:

"that sleepy old fool is gon bust hell wide open!"  

[Terell Kirby]

Kanye being Kanye:

 

[Terell Kirby]

Contemplative journal entry (2.8.25).

What is the value of having a deep understanding of how to distinguish lower vs higher perspectives?

1. Path to higher epistemic standards-meaning that one can no longer take questions/problems of epistemology and human knowledge from granted. This allows one to be more intellectually rigorous in screening various kinds of worldviews and ideologies - and comes with an added skill of being able to distinguish partial truth from bullshit, lies, fantasy and deception for each of these worldviews and ideologies.

2. Safeguards the mind from epistemic corruption via group think and conformity- by way of social osmosis. Just going about believing  in prescribed narratives of the herd, unquestioningly, is seen as less desirable because its both intellectually lazy and passive (lacking responsibility). One also begins to take seriously how socialization / social dynamics corrupts the mind- and the necessity in holding all human ideas about truth and reality very, very loosely.

3. There is a deeper appreciation for the wisdom of the mechanics of human self deception and ignorance- as one is now aware of how enormously challenging it is to avoid epistemic traps and echo chambers reinforced by things like social media, television, corporations, religious/spiritual communities, atheistic/scientific communities, academia, etc.

4. Greater access to metaphysical/universal insight and intuition. Reality is no longer seen as fixed or objective on any material grounds. Consciousness itself takes on an infinite number of perspectives, some of which are far removed from Truth and some right on the edge of it. From this place, one is then free to play around with various interpretations.

5. The mind becomes more fluid, less rigid and open to embracing new perspectives and the contradictions/paradoxes they introduce. Deconstructing objective notions of truth becomes less threatening, as one sees the limitations for taking holding any partial perspective in a fixed/rigid manner. All of this comes with greater degrees of intellectual freedom and autonomy, which are essential ingredients in developing high epistemic standards.

6. Deeper appreciation for human survival and how it shapes ideas/belief systems. Perspectives are seen as containers for a set of particular values. These values are often derived not from anything true or objective within the perspective, but from subjective survival biases of the subject that is holding then perspective. It's now understood that most humans, whether they are conscious of it or not, hold some kind value system that is unique to their survival demands. One can clearly see that lower perspectives are those that are unconscious about how their survival shapes their value system and worldview.

 

Thanks much for the content @Leo Gura- I've gotten a lot out of it thus far.

[aurum]

Lower: conflating truth with pragmatism, lack of construct-awareness around scientific, circular reasoning.

 

In contrast with,

 

Higher: Construct-awareness, meta-rationality, transcends and includes lower perspectives

 

Edited Sunday at 04:24 PM by aurum

[aurum]

Higher: Cognitive complexity, construct-awareness, pluralism, root-cause thinking, emphasis on ecology / well-being, high ethical standards, lack of demonization

 

 

Edited yesterday at 12:58 AM by aurum

[ExploringReality]

https://youtu.be/We6Qr9-dDn8?si=V3gab2Ivss8kFT3r

 

Leo this is too funny 😂 

Edited yesterday at 09:08 AM by ExploringReality

[ExploringReality]

@Leo GuraIs this how it was in highschool with your friend Thiago? 😅 

[ExploringReality]

 

This is a good one 😁

 

[ExploringReality]

 

•Very high perspective for dealing with arguments and heated emotional debates. 

This is foundational for dealing with fools.

[Terell Kirby]

Love this guy's channel-unpopular but full of great, high perspective content:

 

[Terell Kirby]

On the opposite end ..

Edited 15 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[aurum]

Higher: Non-materialism, ego-awareness, non-resistance, autonomous meaning and decision making

 

 

 

[Terell Kirby]

Low pre modern perspective: