I have realize that everyone is right

[Breakingthewall]

Everyone is right or wrong from an absolute perspective, it's the same, because in infinity any finite statement is meaningless. But in the finite context there is a real difference between both. 

[WelcometoReality]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Everyone is right or wrong from an absolute perspective, it's the same, because in infinity any finite statement is meaningless. But in the finite context there is a real difference between both. 

True.

But how many of the human conflicts are based on anything grounded in reality. It's usually two beliefsystems bumping into each other.

[Hojo]

This is just the elephant story.

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

True.

But how many of the human conflicts are based on anything grounded in reality. It's usually two beliefsystems bumping into each other.

Not just in human conflict, also in spirituality. The sentence: if you want spiritual enlightenment the best way is using a lot of cocaine, is false. 

[seriousman24]

It's like the freedom and infinity paradox we are free to enslave and infinite enough to be finite.

[WelcometoReality]

38 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Not just in human conflict, also in spirituality. The sentence: if you want spiritual enlightenment the best way is using a lot of cocaine, is false. 

If you run that all the way down you'll see the you don't know that but yeah I assume the same.

Also I don't see arguing which way is better to spiritual enlightenment any closer to reality than all the conflicts about politics etc in "normal" society.

[WelcometoReality]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

This is just the elephant story.

Mhm or the chinese farmer. 🙂

[kavaris]

15 hours ago, James123 said:

That's it. There is no reason to argue whatsoever.

Wellll..... Not quiet, HOWEVER... WE should, and COULD be those who are on the same page, right?!.. And if we ARE, then theres something we need to do...

We need to promise that we will only point each other towards the "source", or... towards some term or word that we all resonate w/, kinda like an only advance, or a realm without words —> the in-between space. BUT, that means speaking in a kinda way that feels like... errr .. a kind of... . intuition, but has some logic to it, or... it is not saying "walk into the fire" to people, does that make sense?

Its like this: a little logic, a little intuit, a little down to earth... a little dreamy, a little fiery, a little "you are worth it"... a song By Kavaris, Hey i just came up w/ that!

In conclusion, theres more to it, but now yas see what im sayin...

[kavaris]

@James123 What you do get credit for is being the  progenitor  of this thread (which is a big deal if we bring each other CLOSER) had it not existed we wouldnt be able to come to this understanding.

 

p.s. for the word or term to agree on, we can start out w/ something like  only advance  and just see what happens

Edited Tuesday at 05:36 PM by kavaris

[Xonas Pitfall]

This is good!
This is bad!
This is useful!
This is useless!
This is helpful!
This isn’t!
This is smart!
This is foolish!
This is kind!
This is rude!
This is efficient!
This is wasteful!
This is fair!
This is unfair!
This is organized!
This is chaotic!
This is productive!
This is lazy!
This is safe!
This is risky!
This is polite!
This is disrespectful!
This is clear!
This is confusing!

[Lucasxp64]

19 hours ago, James123 said:

That's it. There is no reason to argue whatsoever.

lol a lot of argument is just because people didn't do the work to realize that their perspectives are pretty close to each other, and they are just rephrasing the same stuff differently. 

[Princess Arabia]

I live in Timbuktu.

[tuku747]

Only Leo is right

[Breakingthewall]

On 21/1/2025 at 4:06 AM, James123 said:

@Yimpa @Leo Gura @Hojo @Thought Art RUmi says, everyone is right if you are right, you can not find the rightness if you are wrong.

That statement could be very deep. I interpret is as when you are in clarity you perceive that everything that is is exactly right. Any behavior of someone, any movement of reality, anything that happens to you is right, is the one that should be. But if you are in confusion, automatically nothing is right, everything is confusing

Edited 19 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[kavaris]

Being right

Not only is reality is filled with a whole lot of question marks (questions not alot of people give the time to investigate) it means theres a wide area, a pasture of questions that people feel the need to answer (a world of mysteries leads to questions, questions to answers) This ties in to an organic system/chemicals, and the internal dialogue, a self validation mechanism makes it feel like they are saying something right when it just is more of a feel good to say it, as opposed to "am i showing empathy to this persons situation as well as determing if im just flat out wrong...", or it could just be a random feeling, a stray hair emotion being cast out... whatever the case, that sentiment towards  'wanting to be right all the time' can be deepened to include more than the self, but to ask if/and when others are right, and if its showing respect/sympathy towards their condition, or if it is just assuming that they are a certain way. It helps to get to know the other person. Nevertheless, we take the "happy, happy am i right-" mechanism for granted, as many people dont know their entire life depends on it. That is, you would begin to break down if the seat of your throne was either dethroned or staggered between unhappy things (theres a balance of uptakes vs downtakes you dont know yous are doing everyday to keep yourselves straight/even) its both physical and mental, working together.

[James123]

4 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That statement could be very deep. I interpret is as when you are in clarity you perceive that everything that is is exactly right. Any behavior of someone, any movement of reality, anything that happens to you is right, is the one that should be.

Definitely. 💯 

4 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

But if you are in confusion, automatically nothing is right, everything is confusing

Imo, even entire world knows what Enlightenment is, nothing will change lol 😂 😂 😂 

[Aaron p]

I think I'm reading this correctly in that my understanding of what he means when he says everything is right is possibly like in the sense that all of existence is correct and perfect? Even incorrectness is correct in the sense that it exists and could not exist in any other way and ultimately serves truth...?

[James123]

On 1/21/2025 at 5:44 PM, kavaris said:

Wellll..... Not quiet, HOWEVER... WE should, and COULD be those who are on the same page, right?!.. And if we ARE, then theres something we need to do...

We need to promise that we will only point each other towards the "source", or... towards some term or word that we all resonate w/, kinda like an only advance, or a realm without words —> the in-between space. BUT, that means speaking in a kinda way that feels like... errr .. a kind of... . intuition, but has some logic to it, or... it is not saying "walk into the fire" to people, does that make sense?

Its like this: a little logic, a little intuit, a little down to earth... a little dreamy, a little fiery, a little "you are worth it"... a song By Kavaris, Hey i just came up w/ that!

In conclusion, theres more to it, but now yas see what im sayin...

See that's what i am saying, you are right.

[James123]

28 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

I think I'm reading this correctly in that my understanding of what he means when he says everything is right is possibly like in the sense that all of existence is correct and perfect? Even incorrectness is correct in the sense that it exists and could not exist in any other way and ultimately serves truth...?

The real question is, When everything or everyone is correct, what will be you or your personality?

[kavaris]

Yes i get it everyone is right.

But wait, someone had another comment in the thread, and i dont know where it is now. i mustve halucinated it, as i was buildin off of its logic (in the middle of constructing a message), and now its gone.

Edited 13 hours ago by kavaris