TikTok officially banned in the US

[Blood is Life]

laughing in a European way

 

 

Edited Sunday at 11:37 AM by Blood is Life

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Blood is Life said:

laughing in a European way

 

 

Hopefully it’ll get banned here too. Also ban X, Facebook etc.

[gambler]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Hopefully it’ll get banned here too. Also ban X, Facebook etc.

I’m with you on this. 

[Golem]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Hopefully it’ll get banned here too. Also ban X, Facebook etc.

actualized.org?

[Raze]

If tiktok comes back it should alter it’s algorithm to promote content criticizing all the politicians who voted to ban it 

[zazen]

From Chat GPT: 

''China’s censorship laws are not random or ideologically driven—they are largely reactionary, developed in response to specific historical events and perceived threats, particularly from Western powers like the U.S. These laws reflect China’s belief in safeguarding its national security, political stability, and cultural integrity in the face of external interference.

From the Tiananmen Square protests to the Hong Kong unrest, China has consistently tightened its grip on information following moments where foreign platforms or ideologies appeared to challenge its control. Understanding this context shows that China’s censorship is less about suppressing freedom for its own sake and more about protecting sovereignty in a world it views as hostile and destabilizing.''

The West loves to boast about its freedom to surf the net. When a Western super power uses the internet and permeability of democratic systems / NGO's as a tool to destabilize foreign nations, its no wonder other nations hesitate to open up. The US has a successful track record of doing this, and doesn't stop at any rate even till today. Imagine your a developing nation of over a billion people that requires stability in order to grow and provide a decent quality of life to your people - to lift as many of them out of poverty. You need to get rich enough before your country gets old enough - so that you may have the resources to support the elderly and avoid the pressure your nation will face from having inverted demographics.

For nations like China or India, the stakes couldn’t be higher. Allow unfettered access, and they risk foreign actors exploiting their vulnerabilities, stoking unrest, and halting progress. For nations and regions already wealthy and food secure such as Europe, they may be able to be as free as they like and indulge in such freedoms - but for nations who have many of its people barely getting by, they can't afford to be sabotaged or slowed down by external interference. The issue is that if they tighten control, they're labeled "authoritarian" and accused of repressing freedoms - from Westerners who have been deepthroated this absolutist idea of freedom as a apex value, who are unable to understand that some freedoms are taken away to have access to the larger freedom of  life and security.

The two girls which went viral for 100 guys in a day, now do 1000 guys in 24 hours - she celebrates by doing a cum-walk. This is why China has a different version of Tik Tok domestically, no vulgarity, violence etc - purist libertarian and liberals will cry freedom of speech of course. Turkey denies this cultural export with some sharia energy. Would anyone family person with a son or daughter want their children seeing this kind of behavior be normalized or even ''accepted'' in your society?

Edited Sunday at 04:00 PM by zazen

[Buck Edwards]

3 hours ago, zazen said:

The West loves to boast about its freedom to surf the net. When a Western super power uses the internet and permeability of democratic systems / NGO's as a tool to destabilize foreign nations, its no wonder other nations hesitate to open up. The US has a successful track record of doing this, and doesn't stop at any rate even till today. Imagine your a developing nation of over a billion people that requires stability in order to grow and provide a decent quality of life to your people - to lift as many of them out of poverty. You need to get rich enough before your country gets old enough - so that you may have the resources to support the elderly and avoid the pressure your nation will face from having inverted demographics.

I don't know what you mean. The US can face a security threat. Don't you think. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Comrades! Let us all be loyal members of the Community Party of China, and download RedNote [小红书] !

Edited Sunday at 07:06 PM by Husseinisdoingfine

[gambler]

37 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I don't know what you mean. The US can face a security threat. Don't you think. 

Don't you think it's a double standard? The US is protecting itself from a security threat, as TikTok, among other reasons, can be used by China to push political messages, propaganda, or misinformation to influence or manipulate public opinion. But the US has done regime changes with the help of infiltrating local media. In light of this fact, if any country bans US platforms or media because it can be a security threat, that is, it can be used by America to push political messages, propaganda, or misinformation to influence or manipulate public opinion, the country will be painted as controlling, censorious, intolerant, and so forth. Both America and China can impose security-threat bans, but one is never smeared for it, while the other is. China has just as much right to defend itself from civil strife as America.

Edited Sunday at 07:42 PM by gambler

[Buck Edwards]

1 minute ago, gambler said:

Don't you think it's a double standard? The US is protecting itself from a security threat, as TikTok, among other reasons, can be used by China to push political messages, propaganda, or misinformation to influence or manipulate public opinion.

I think every country has the right to protect their interests. A nation doesn't think what it does to a rival during a war. It only focuses on its own agenda. This is how countries have always operated throughout history. To risk a country's security to foreign sources would be ultimate stupidity on the part of the country's leaders. This is absolutely not about mutual morality but the goal of security. No country has existed without war and no war was ever humanitarian. 

[gambler]

Just now, Buck Edwards said:

To risk a country's security to foreign sources would be ultimate stupidity on the part of the country's leaders.

Exactly.

[LifeEnjoyer]

Hooray!

Edited Sunday at 08:40 PM by LifeEnjoyer

[Cocolove]

Still cant livestream

[Yimpa]

Morons be morons 

[Pox]

9 hours ago, zazen said:

From Chat GPT: 

''China’s censorship laws are not random or ideologically driven—they are largely reactionary, developed in response to specific historical events and perceived threats, particularly from Western powers like the U.S. These laws reflect China’s belief in safeguarding its national security, political stability, and cultural integrity in the face of external interference.

From the Tiananmen Square protests to the Hong Kong unrest, China has consistently tightened its grip on information following moments where foreign platforms or ideologies appeared to challenge its control. Understanding this context shows that China’s censorship is less about suppressing freedom for its own sake and more about protecting sovereignty in a world it views as hostile and destabilizing.''

The West loves to boast about its freedom to surf the net. When a Western super power uses the internet and permeability of democratic systems / NGO's as a tool to destabilize foreign nations, its no wonder other nations hesitate to open up. The US has a successful track record of doing this, and doesn't stop at any rate even till today. Imagine your a developing nation of over a billion people that requires stability in order to grow and provide a decent quality of life to your people - to lift as many of them out of poverty. You need to get rich enough before your country gets old enough - so that you may have the resources to support the elderly and avoid the pressure your nation will face from having inverted demographics.

For nations like China or India, the stakes couldn’t be higher. Allow unfettered access, and they risk foreign actors exploiting their vulnerabilities, stoking unrest, and halting progress. For nations and regions already wealthy and food secure such as Europe, they may be able to be as free as they like and indulge in such freedoms - but for nations who have many of its people barely getting by, they can't afford to be sabotaged or slowed down by external interference. The issue is that if they tighten control, they're labeled "authoritarian" and accused of repressing freedoms - from Westerners who have been deepthroated this absolutist idea of freedom as a apex value, who are unable to understand that some freedoms are taken away to have access to the larger freedom of  life and security.

The two girls which went viral for 100 guys in a day, now do 1000 guys in 24 hours - she celebrates by doing a cum-walk. This is why China has a different version of Tik Tok domestically, no vulgarity, violence etc - purist libertarian and liberals will cry freedom of speech of course. Turkey denies this cultural export with some sharia energy. Would anyone family person with a son or daughter want their children seeing this kind of behavior be normalized or even ''accepted'' in your society?

take it from someone who was born and raised in mainland china, it is just as the "Westerners who have been deepthroated this absolutist idea of freedom as a apex value" says, china is "authoritarian" and repressing freedoms. stop having this idealized version of china in your head, it isnt even nearly as clean as u think, just cuz u hate the west doesnt make china suddenly great

[Pox]

this relativity and the lack of confidence in information are really chinese propaganda's best asset...

from chat gpt:

Postmodernist Rhetoric: The CCP is adept at taking advantage of postmodernism's core idea that "truth is relative." By framing all criticism of China as "Western propaganda," they muddy the waters of discourse. It becomes difficult for people to separate legitimate criticism of China’s policies from biased attacks, creating widespread doubt.

Whataboutism: A favorite strategy is to deflect criticism by pointing out flaws in the U.S. or other Western nations—racism, income inequality, or the treatment of indigenous peoples. While these issues are real, the CCP uses them not to engage in meaningful dialogue but to distract and relativize their own abuses.

Exploiting Western Doubts: Many in the West are disillusioned with their own governments due to valid issues like corporate corruption, economic inequality, or systemic racism. The CCP capitalizes on this discontent to position itself as a “better alternative,” despite its glaring human rights abuses.

Internal Propaganda: The CCP controls the narrative within China through state media, school curriculums, and censorship of foreign media. Citizens are exposed only to sanitized, glorified portrayals of their government.

External Propaganda: Through platforms like TikTok, state-run accounts, and influencers who may unwittingly spread pro-China narratives, the CCP creates a global image of China as a benevolent, futuristic, and misunderstood nation.

Narrative of Victimhood: The CCP often paints China as a victim of Western imperialism and unfair criticism, which resonates with some audiences in both developing and developed countries.

Low Information Consumption: Many people rely on quick, surface-level information from social media rather than engaging in deeper research. This allows CCP narratives to take root among those who don’t fact-check.

Desire for Simplicity: It’s easier to believe in a simple, appealing narrative ("China is misunderstood and advanced") than to grapple with the messy reality of authoritarianism, oppression, and censorship.

Distrust of Traditional Media: In the West, growing skepticism of mainstream media makes people more susceptible to alternative narratives, including CCP propaganda.

[Raze]

This is a disaster for democrats. 170 million Americans, mostly anti-trump or non-political, just got a message saying Trump brought their favorite app back.

[Beans]

I deleted the app and it’s not in the app store

i think trump is full of shit 

and it’s not coming back especially if it’s not back on the App Store. I feel like they’re just playing with emotions at this point. 

[Basman]

5 hours ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

Hooray!

😩😩😩

[Basman]

22 minutes ago, Beans said:

I deleted the app and it’s not in the app store

i think trump is full of shit 

and it’s not coming back especially if it’s not back on the App Store. I feel like they’re just playing with emotions at this point. 

Its technically illegal to host Tiktok in America as of now though Trump has said that no one will be held liable if they do.

Trump hasn't "unbanned" Tiktok, merely delayed it, probably to eek out an American purchase.