Why is there still such a major disconnection with climate change

[Hardkill]

 

 

People are already suffering from climate change more so than ever before!

Most Americans especially the growing generations of younger people in our country say that they believe the climate crisis is real and the majority of Americans support climate reforms!

“72% OF US BELIEVE THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS REAL”

Source: Yale (12.13.2023) — When asked “Do you think that global warming is happening?” — 72% said YES. Pew (10.25.2023): 71% say that climate change is “causing harm to people in the U.S.” and 63% expect that harm from climate change “will get worse in their lifetime.” 

https://www.cbsnews.com/politicalclimate/

This isn't the 1900s or early 2000s anymore where the vast majority of people during those times weren't affected by it, the degree of the climate wasn't nearly as bad as it has gotten in recent years, and most people didn't even believe that climate change was real!

So, why hasn't the legitimate worry about this issue amongst the majority of Americans gone down lately instead of spiking up?!

Why wasn't climate change even a salient issue at all in the 2024 general election and why did America elect the worst climate change denialist ever for president instead of someone like Harris who would've been as progressive as Biden was on climate change, even despite Biden passing the most historic piece of legislation ever in US History for dealing with climate change?!

Edited Saturday at 10:50 PM by Hardkill

[Thought Art]

Can't help stupid.

[Hardkill]

3 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Can't help stupid.

Yeah, but most people believe climate change is a very serious crisis in our country and want new-age reforms done for this issue. 

Also, why haven't the growing large progressive and youth movements on climate change been enough to make it an exceptionally important issue in people's minds?

I can understand why if say a majority of old people wouldn't care or worry about this issue for themselves at all because they've already lived out most of their lives and know that they only have a relatively short amount of years left to live.

Yet, most young and middle-aged people in our country know that they will have to live with this serious problem for several decades and that this issue will continue to get worse and worse and worse for the rest of their lives.

Is it because most people are still prioritizing financial affordability and other things over climate change at this point in time?

Edited Saturday at 11:02 PM by Hardkill

[Yimpa]

Selfishness is a bitch.

[Leo Gura]

Because there is no solution to ending oil. Oil is not going away, period. No amount of crying or moral outrage will change that.

There is your fantasies and there is reality.

Edited Sunday at 12:24 AM by Leo Gura

[AION]

Some people talk about climate change but these are the same people who won’t give up driving their car or other first world privileges that create so much carbon footprint 🥲

[Hardkill]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because there is no solution to ending oil. Oil is not going away, period. No amount of crying or moral outrage will change that.

There is your fantasies and there is reality.

Of course we can’t rid of all oil now or for the foreseeable future, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do more to transition from oil usage to renewable energy. 

Wasn’t that the main point of the climate provisions in the IRA?

Didn’t you say before that transitioning to renewable energy as fast as possible is more important than ever?

Edited Sunday at 12:31 AM by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Didn’t you say before that transitioning to renewable energy as fast as possible is more important than ever?

Yeah, but it won't happen due to corruption, greed, and unconsciousness. So buckle in.

[Hardkill]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, but it won't happen due to corruption, greed, and unconsciousness. So buckle in.

What about the growing movement of progressives, climate activists, and younger generations of people throughout the whole country who are all deeply concerned about climate change more than ever before?

Why hasn't the suffering from it and majority support for attacking climate change already been enough to wake up enough of the masses to take some serious action on it?

Are too many Americans still too afraid to change over to wind, solar power, EVs, and other alternative energy sources because they still aren't familiar enough with all of that?

Edited Sunday at 12:45 AM by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

What about the growing movement of progressives, climate activists, and younger generations of people throughout the whole country who are all deeply concerned about climate change more than ever before?

Fools end up at the firing squads.

Edited Sunday at 12:48 AM by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Fools end up at the firing squads.

Because Trump will actually carry out literal firing squads for anybody who dares question him, his party, and his donors?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

21 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

What about the growing movement of progressives, climate activists, and younger generations of people throughout the whole country who are all deeply concerned about climate change more than ever before?

Why hasn't the suffering from it and majority support for attacking climate change already been enough to wake up enough of the masses to take some serious action on it?

Are too many Americans still too afraid to change over to wind, solar power, EVs, and other alternative energy sources because they still aren't familiar enough with all of that?

It goes even deeper.

Plastics.

All come from the oil industry.

I guarantee you so many of these activists, progressives and newer generations partake in 'fast fashion'. That is just one example of hidden plastics. You won't find organic fabrics in all of those industries, only blends.

Plastics are everywhere - case in point; microplastics. That shit is now so pervasive it's in our brains.

You can see how the roots of society are embedded in the oil industry.

There are many, many more examples...

[Buck Edwards]

Celebrities talk about climate change but fly in private jets 

[Shane Hanlon]

Symptoms of Broken Systems

Climate Change

Microplastics

Biodiversity Loss

AI Bots

Loneliness

Soil Degradation

Factory Farming

Arms Races

War

Misinformation

Ocean Acidification

 

All of these are mostly driven by just a handful of underlying dynamics.

A capitalist economy built on exponential growth.

Poor coordination between powers.

The momentum of colonization.

If we work to actively address these underlying dynamics, we have a chance. If we don't, a painful collapse is coming.

 

This is an oversimplification for introductory purposes. If you look at humanity from a bird's eye view and squint, this is what you will see. It leaves out a lot of important complexity and is not in any way comprehensive. these are also not separate things as they all interact with and through each other. This is only meant to be a starting point for more research. If you want a more in-depth explanation of why this is the case, copy what I wrote and ask chatGPT questions about it.

[Yimpa]

Tech giants sounded the alarm about climate change. Now they're warming up to Trump

 

 

[gambler]

On 1/18/2025 at 7:52 PM, Hardkill said:

Because Trump will actually carry out literal firing squads for anybody who dares question him, his party, and his donors?

You’re beyond adorable. 

[Golem]

10 hours ago, gambler said:

You’re beyond adorable. 

He’s literally a product of this forum’s collective mental illness. Own it - and own him

[Leo Gura]

@Golem Watch your tongue.

[Hardkill]

59 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Golem Watch your tongue.

So, is now not a good time for anybody to be protesting for climate change?

Or should climate activists in the US still try their best to keep fighting for it by keeping the conversation on it going in some way even though there will obviously be no way to stop Trump, MAGA, and the GOP from making climate change much worse during these next 4 years?

Edited 15 hours ago by Hardkill

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

@Golem Watch your tongue.

fingers, it's fingers.. actually.