Do lsd and mdma cause dental problems?

[Asia P]

I wonder if psychedelics like lsd, mushrooms or mdma cause tooth decay, because drugs like methanfetamine causes dental problems because of the acidity of the substance and the dehydration that occurs inside the mouth, and in theory also some psychedelics should be acid and cause dehydration as well, also if they are completely different substances.

What do you guys think? Am i being paranoid? 

[Breakingthewall]

Lsd and mushrooms seems safe, same DMT. MDMA is cardiotoxic and could destabilize your emotional system, it is better to avoid regular use

[Schizophonia]

14 hours ago, Asia P said:

I wonder if psychedelics like lsd, mushrooms or mdma cause tooth decay, because drugs like methanfetamine causes dental problems because of the acidity of the substance and the dehydration that occurs inside the mouth, and in theory also some psychedelics should be acid and cause dehydration as well, also if they are completely different substances.

What do you guys think? Am i being paranoid? 

When i take LSD i tend to clench my teeth a lot, it also triggers unpleasant tooth sensitivity but i don't know if it's related to prolonged clenching or if it's just neurological.
I have other side effects like the impression of having urinated on myself, of having snorted steel because of the vasoconstriction etc.

Edited Saturday at 12:18 PM by Schizophonia

[Asia P]

8 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

When i take LSD i tend to clench my teeth a lot, it also triggers unpleasant tooth sensitivity but i don't know if it's related to prolonged clenching or if it's just neurological.
I have other side effects like the impression of having urinated on myself, of having snorted steel because of the vasoconstriction etc.

I feel sensitivity on gums and i also clench my teeth a lot, thats also why i was in doubt. I definitely have strange symptoms too like you do, But yes, in this case they might be neurological 

[Schizophonia]

6 hours ago, Asia P said:

I feel sensitivity on gums and i also clench my teeth a lot, thats also why i was in doubt. I definitely have strange symptoms too like you do, But yes, in this case they might be neurological 

LSD feels "dirtier" than psilocybin. 

[RendHeaven]

8 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

LSD feels "dirtier" than psilocybin. 

I know exactly what you mean

[Leo Gura]

Hard to know in a scientific sense.

Practically, not an issue.

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

LSD feels "dirtier" than psilocybin. 

A lot of LSD ain't pure or ain't even LSD.

Real LSD feels quite pure.

[integration journey]

9 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

LSD feels "dirtier" than psilocybin. 

That what I thought until my last LSD trip. LSD is beautifully weird is all I’m going to say. 

[LambdaDelta]

LSD is certainly more body heavy than mushrooms, I don't envy anyone who doesn't have a benzo or at least a non-GABA muscle relaxant ready for the comedown. The last couple hours are worthless, not even useful to record insights, by that time it's too late. 

[Vynce]

20 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

When i take LSD i tend to clench my teeth a lot, it also triggers unpleasant tooth sensitivity but i don't know if it's related to prolonged clenching or if it's just neurological.
I have other side effects like the impression of having urinated on myself, of having snorted steel because of the vasoconstriction etc.

Have a look into "Serotonin Syndrom". LSD causes heavy trouble in the serotonin pathways. And your impressions are really just the start of such a syndrome. It can be pretty dangerous. Even life threatening.

[integration journey]

2 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

LSD is certainly more body heavy than mushrooms, I don't envy anyone who doesn't have a benzo or at least a non-GABA muscle relaxant ready for the comedown. The last couple hours are worthless, not even useful to record insights, by that time it's too late. 

I do agree that the trip is longer than it should be. LSD is so stimulating that I’m guaranteed not to sleep well the day I take it. 

[TheEnigma]

I think when you are on these drugs dental problems are one of the least of your worries 

[Vynce]

6 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

LSD is certainly more body heavy than mushrooms, I don't envy anyone who doesn't have a benzo or at least a non-GABA muscle relaxant ready for the comedown. The last couple hours are worthless, not even useful to record insights, by that time it's too late. 

What would be a good muscle relaxant, that worked for you? 

[Davino]

16 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

LSD feels "dirtier" than psilocybin. 

In my experience, I couldn't disagree more.

Even with lemon Tek mushrooms feel more messy and "unpure" than LSD. Which makes sense even from a chemical perspective.

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, integration journey said:

I do agree that the trip is longer than it should be. LSD is so stimulating that I’m guaranteed not to sleep well the day I take it. 

That's why i only dropped LSD like at 6am so i could sleep on the evening. 

4 hours ago, Vynce said:

Have a look into "Serotonin Syndrom". LSD causes heavy trouble in the serotonin pathways. And your impressions are really just the start of such a syndrome. It can be pretty dangerous. Even life threatening.

Yes but it is limited to vasoconstriction, i never had serotonin syndrome with LSD and btw no one has died with LSD, even with huge overdoses.

When I tried a medium/high dose of tramadole once, i had serotonin syndrome and the next day i threw up 6 times in one day.

[Schizophonia]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

A lot of LSD ain't pure or ain't even LSD.

Real LSD feels quite pure.

What i mean is that LSD is more stimulating; Not only are there more unpleasant side effects (tight jaw, vasoconstriction, walking and acting like a Fallout robot at x3 speed...) but the trips are particularly manic and strange.

Lots of aggressive sexual energy with magenta, chrome visuals, and succession of white and black lines. Crazy ideas, completely alien experiences (best point of LSD for me).

Edited Sunday at 12:44 PM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

8 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

I know exactly what you mean

The first time i took 300ug of LSD i imagined i was going to have a typical very egotistical spiritual experience lol.

But actually i found myself drooling in my bed GDHGDJD£££3333%%%%%%ing and in my head i was in the bottom of the asshole of the universe, with random visuals of big black hairdresser women holding out her giant foot, harmonica noises, and other insane and basically random experiences.

I didn't have that even with 4 HO MET, metocin is also pervet but it's already more orderly and pure.

5 MeO MIpt was the coldest, purest, "yang" experience I've had despite the bodyload to the point of looking like a tomato with cushing's syndrome.

29 minutes ago, Davino said:

In my experience, I couldn't disagree more.

Even with lemon Tek mushrooms feel more messy and "unpure" than LSD. Which makes sense even from a chemical perspective.

I never tried a big dose of psilocybin so i can't say.

[manuel bon]

17 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

LSD feels "dirtier" than psilocybin. 

True. Maybe cause psilocybin is natural and lsd is from a laboratory. Or you mean also synthetic psilocybin?

[Schizophonia]

8 minutes ago, manuel bon said:

True. Maybe cause psilocybin is natural and lsd is from a laboratory. Or you mean also synthetic psilocybin?

Because psilocybin is purely serotoninergic while LSD has a strong affinity for dopaminergic receptors too, even other catecholamines and histamine in a lesser extent ; That mades LSD more stimulant and give it a more "manic" vibe that most of psychedelics.

 

But in its defense it's also probably the more deep long effects psychedelic, the only one who can play in the same category than DMT.

Edited Sunday at 01:17 PM by Schizophonia