What is the breakthrough dosage of 5 Meo DMT and DMT? Moreover, how can I use them?

[James123]

I want breakthrough as I did have on 8 gr dried shrooms. 

[LambdaDelta]

Your questions are quite unspecific, nobody knows what sort of breakthrough you had on 8g of shrooms. Your sensitivity to DMT and 5-MeO could differ wrt to other chemicals, so any equivalency would be guesswork. Just generally you'd want, say, 60mg DMT / 20mg 5-MeO-DMT for what most people consider a breakthrough, assuming smoked route of administration. The ROA will influence the intensity and time of onset in important ways. Further, what ROA you can use will depend on the form your chemical comes in. Freebase you need to smoke, if it's HCL then you can snort or plug 5-MeO. There's usually no DMT HCL, but other salts such as fumarate or citrate can be plugged, or injected IM or IV. Freebase can be converted to a salt using some basic solvents and a reaction with the appropriate acid. You can also take DMT orally with a reversible MAOI like a harmala extract, the dose needs to be higher though. 
So it is as you see, tons of variables to consider. Study the entries on psychonaut wiki, and trip reports on Erowid. You can filter by method of administration, see what dosage people have used, what kind of effects they obtained from that, and extrapolate to your desired experience. 

[James123]

3 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

Your questions are quite unspecific, nobody knows what sort of breakthrough you had on 8g of shrooms. Your sensitivity to DMT and 5-MeO could differ wrt to other chemicals, so any equivalency would be guesswork. Just generally you'd want, say, 60mg DMT / 20mg 5-MeO-DMT for what most people consider a breakthrough, assuming smoked route of administration. The ROA will influence the intensity and time of onset in important ways. Further, what ROA you can use will depend on the form your chemical comes in. Freebase you need to smoke, if it's HCL then you can snort or plug 5-MeO. There's usually no DMT HCL, but other salts such as fumarate or citrate can be plugged, or injected IM or IV. Freebase can be converted to a salt using some basic solvents and a reaction with the appropriate acid. You can also take DMT orally with a reversible MAOI like a harmala extract, the dose needs to be higher though. 
So it is as you see, tons of variables to consider. Study the entries on psychonaut wiki, and trip reports on Erowid. You can filter by method of administration, see what dosage people have used, what kind of effects they obtained from that, and extrapolate to your desired experience. 

The shrooms trip change my DNA. That how strong it was. However, it lasted 20 hours. I want something peak but at the same time in less time. Therefore, I will try to use different stuff now. 

[Oppositionless]

On 1/17/2025 at 3:13 PM, James123 said:

The shrooms trip change my DNA. That how strong it was. However, it lasted 20 hours. I want something peak but at the same time in less time. Therefore, I will try to use different stuff now. 

Sounds like you're incredibly sensitive to psychedelics. 20 hours is definitely not common, I'd start by going to psychonaut wiki and with your level of sensitivity start with what they label a microdose.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Oppositionless said:

Sounds like you're incredibly sensitive to psychedelics. 20 hours is definitely not common, I'd start by going to psychonaut wiki and with your level of sensitivity start with what they label a microdose.

But I took 8 gr dried shrooms that time. Does it shows that I am so sensitive?

[Leo Gura]

Ramp up gradually from low dose.

Are you vaping or what? Vaped doses need to be much lower.

Edited Saturday at 10:50 PM by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

32 minutes ago, James123 said:

But I took 8 gr dried shrooms that time. Does it shows that I am so sensitive?

8 Grams is a lot of mushrooms generally, assuming common strength.

Also, 5meodmt and DMT and mushrooms are all very unique....

[James123]

4 hours ago, Thought Art said:

8 Grams is a lot of mushrooms generally, assuming common strength.

Also, 5meodmt and DMT and mushrooms are all very unique....

Should I go high dosage of shrooms again? I took plocybin cubensis before. Or should I try 2 taps of Lsd?

[James123]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Ramp up gradually from low dose.

Are you vaping or what? Vaped doses need to be much lower.

I don't even know how to use and weight it? Generally are they used via pipe? Which one do you recommend?

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, James123 said:

I don't even know how to use and weight it? Generally are they used via pipe? Which one do you recommend?

Do your research. This is not a joke.

If you cannot be bothered to do a few weeks of research then you should not be taking psychedelics because you will cripple yourself.

All this information is easily available online but it takes a few weeks to sort through.

Edited Sunday at 03:48 AM by Leo Gura

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Do your research. This is not a joke.

If you cannot be bothered to do a few weeks of research then you should not be taking paychedelics because you will cripple yourself.

All this information is easily available online but it takes a few weeks to sort through.

İ use many time pychedelics (plocybin cubensis), my max was 10 gr dried shrooms. You are right, and i do have a limited time. İ will do, what i will do my best and go with shrooms again.

Thank you. 

[Aaron p]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Do your research. This is not a joke.

If you cannot be bothered to do a few weeks of research then you should not be taking psychedelics because you will cripple yourself.

All this information is easily available online but it takes a few weeks to sort through.

The boss has spoken

[Thought Art]

@James123 10 Grams it a dangerous amount for a lot of people man. That is a lot of mushrooms!  If it works for you and you know it that is fine. Just be careful because each strain has a different potency and you can easily 10x the strength.

Don't assume Mushrooms are the same at 5meodmt though. You may be in for a rude awakening.

 

Edited Sunday at 06:45 PM by Thought Art

[James123]

42 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@James123 10 Grams it a dangerous amount for a lot of people man. That is a lot of mushrooms!  If it works for you and you know it that is fine. Just be careful because each strain has a different potency and you can easily 10x the strength.

Don't assume Mushrooms are the same at 5meodmt though. You may be in for a rude awakening.

 

Sure brother. Thanks for the information. I just love the way of 5 Meo peak is short and it is always peak. Shrooms makes me tired anymore. I am almost 40 lol 😂 😂 😂 

[woohoo123]

On 17/01/2025 at 9:13 PM, James123 said:

The shrooms trip change my DNA. That how strong it was. However, it lasted 20 hours. I want something peak but at the same time in less time. Therefore, I will try to use different stuff now. 

What do people mean when they say it changes their DNA? I think Leo said it changed his fingerprints? But wondering what you meant in your case? 

[James123]

43 minutes ago, woohoo123 said:

What do people mean when they say it changes their DNA? I think Leo said it changed his fingerprints? But wondering what you meant in your case? 

İ have become a different person.