Here’s an interesting perspective on intuition

[Davino]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Infinity/God/Consciousness is not a conceptual matter. It's more fundamental than perception.

@Leo Gura Could you articulate that difference?

For me perception/sensations and consciousness are identical.

God an Infinity do have a meta-perception which I cannot articulate.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You can know that New Agers are engaging in fantasy and have low epistemic rigor.

How? How can you know.

You base this on your own definitions and biases, which aren't all correct? 

Radical open-mindedness.

[UnbornTao]

If you were to perform a surgical operation on someone, energy, love, and intuition wouldn't cut it here.

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[UnbornTao]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What kind of music do aliens listen to?

Contemplate!

Dogs barking, of course.

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[Leo Gura]

43 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

How? How can you know.

You base this on your own definitions and biases, which aren't all correct? 

Radical open-mindedness.

Maybe study the things I teach:

 

[Leo Gura]

46 minutes ago, Davino said:

@Leo Gura Could you articulate that difference?

For me perception/sensations and consciousness are identical.

See my video: What Is Perception?

[kavaris]

im not sure i posted in this thread yet, though it might be an appropriate place to invoke this little segment of ideas i have, that which incorporates intuition in there... As, it sortve is like a little daily exercise i do, where i come up w/ three things/topics for the day that i find are either on my mind, or that have potential relevance (they are just general terms to make you think)

Anyway, Leo had recently wrangled back that Low vs High thing—which is really just such a poignant divider to put on perspectives, and belief systems, and other such things... and in that sense, it makes it kinda frustrating when you have to shrink down to a lower perspective to get yourself in someone elses shoes, or vice versa, and so, i def see how often its like.. "Wait, now should this be a high lvl thing, or a low lvl thing... Ahhh"

With that said, here are the words that i thought should go up on the bulletin board today... i came up with six, seeing as the larger idea was High vs. Low Words, and so i had to consider three for each... I also wanted to make sure that the low level words were somewhat interesting...

High

Intuition, Enlightenment and Source

Low

Ego, Lust and Impatience

And in conclusion, the ego is something we aspire to shed, right, even though we still need it. Lust is like, something tied to our primal selves, something that may drive us, but at the same time its like, we dont have so much time that it can be w/ us every where we go... And impatience is interesting, cause its like, you have to consider what things make us impatient, and then, why... Why do we feel the impatience, what thoughts are we telling ourselves, right? so anyway.. thats all i had to say... You can of course ask questions/investigate the high lvl ones, certainly, i just thought i didnt need to mention it.

 

[Thought Art]

13 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

If you were to perform a surgical operation on someone, energy, love, and intuition wouldn't cut it here.

But I could in the pre-operation and post operation help improve survival and recovery rate. 

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

But I could in the pre-operation and post operation help improve survival and recovery rate. 

Given that the main operation was performed successfully, and that you have undergone extensive training and education. The intuition of a random person on the street won't be helpful in performing the operation, no matter how enlightened or loving they may be. 

Then, we can conclude that intuition can be developed, which implies it is not infallible.

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[The Crocodile]

5 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Given that the main operation was performed successfully, and given that you have undergone tons of training and education. The intuition of a random on the street won't help, no matter how enlightened and loving. 

So, we can see that intuition can be developed.

Materialism.

[UnbornTao]

@The Crocodile One does not simply believe their way into performing a successful surgical operation.

[The Crocodile]

@UnbornTao I said materialism is not true.

Some random person on the street could influence the outcome of the surgery.

And there's the case of the healing Rasputin did for the imperial family.

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, The Crocodile said:

@UnbornTao I said materialism is not true.

Some random person on the street could influence the outcome of the surgery.

And there's the case of the healing Rasputin did for the imperial family.

Any philosophy is untrue, yet consider that you don't just jump off a cliff thinking you'll fly -- I mean, you could, but you'd soon realize you're mistaken.  

Being effective requires being grounded on real and workable distinctions and perceptions, rather than theories.

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[The Crocodile]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

Philosophy doesn't apply here. Materialism might be false, but you don't jump off a cliff thinking you'll fly. Being effective requires being grounded on real and workable distinctions and perceptions, not fancy theories.

You take off from the ground first, dum-dum You don't have to jump off a cliff.

[UnbornTao]

@The Crocodile Intuition doesn't make you fly.

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[The Crocodile]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

@The Crocodile Intuition doesn't make you fly.

I didn't say intuition makes you fly.

I said intuition could be part of healing somebody.

And that flight is doable, I'm currently working on it.

And you don't jump off a bridge, a cliff, or a balcony.

You take off from the ground first.

[UnbornTao]

56 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

I didn't say intuition makes you fly.

I just meant intuition is a tool, and it can be used in different ways. 

"Objective" reality has rules which demand being handled on their own terms instead of ours. That's where the power of principles come in.

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I said intuition could be part of healing somebody.

For sure.

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And that flight is doable, I'm currently working on it.

And you don't jump off a bridge, a cliff, or a balcony.

You take off from the ground first.

Don't do dangerous things. Also: What do you mean by your last sentence? Grounding is as much physical as it is psycho-emotional.

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[The Crocodile]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

"Objective" reality has "rules" which demand being handled on their own terms instead of ours. That's where the power of principles come ni

I said because materialism is literally just wrong the rules are not what you think they are.

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Don't do dangerous things.

Nothing I implied was dangerous. I said the idea of jumping off from a high place was stupid and fundamentally misunderstanding as an example.

The fact of the matter is that the supernatural is literally just real, or extreme occult application of natural law through expanded or complexified perception is literally just real.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

@The Crocodile One does not simply believe their way into performing a successful surgical operation.

Hold my beer!

-- New Ager

[UnbornTao]

32 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

I said because materialism is literally just wrong the rules are not what you think they are.

Perhaps, but you still wear clothes in public and eat fruit, not stones. Gravity is a principle that, as a body, you can't get around to. In other words, actions have consequences -- Why? 

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Nothing I implied was dangerous. I said the idea of jumping off from a high place was stupid and fundamentally misunderstanding as an example.

The fact of the matter is that the supernatural is literally just real, or extreme occult application of natural law through expanded or complexified perception is literally just real.

I'd like to acknowledge the possibility that some of it might. However, people easily conflate wishful thinking with what could be called "factual," especially on domains such as this one.

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