What is the breakthrough dosage of Lsd and DMT? Which one should i get it?

[James123]

Hello everyone. İ need your help. İ will stay in darkness and silence. And any tips for trips?

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

İ will stay in darkness and silence.

What do you mean specifically, are you doing it inside a closet?

[shree]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

Hello everyone. İ need your help. İ will stay in darkness and silence. And any tips for trips?

You cannot know until you test it yourself.

Some folks need 300 µg LSD to breakthrough. Some will be overwhelmed with 30µg.

Start low and raise the dose slowly.

[James123]

8 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

What do you mean specifically, are you doing it inside a closet?

Completely dark room at night.

[James123]

4 minutes ago, shree said:

You cannot know until you test it yourself.

Some folks need 300 µg LSD to breakthrough. Some will be overwhelmed with 30µg.

Start low and raise the dose slowly.

İ used to do crazy dosages with dried shrooms. 2 tabs are enough for Lsd?

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

İ used to do crazy dosages with dried shrooms. 2 tabs are enough for Lsd?

You are comparing two very different drugs, so they should be treated as such. 

[LifeEnjoyer]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

 2 tabs are enough for Lsd?

YES! Speaking from experience, 200ug is enough

Btw, Lsd is very tiring

Also, if any music, no lyrics

Remember fully surrender and open up your body

Edited January 17 by LifeEnjoyer

[James123]

8 hours ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

YES! Speaking from experience, 200ug is enough

Btw, Lsd is very tiring

Also, if any music, no lyrics

Remember fully surrender and open up your body

How is DMT? I have access to both.

[Jowblob]

My first psychedelic was ayahuasca , then second trip was 100ug 1p-lsd LSD. Ayahuasca was nothing compared to that first LSD experience.

 

[Schizophonia]

150ug of LSD is a funny trip to me ; And 300ug is a breakthrough toward another world.

[LifeEnjoyer]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

How is DMT? I have access to both.

DMT is like "wow" ;  beyond words.

[James123]

14 minutes ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

DMT is like "wow" ;  beyond words.

I did 8 gr and 10 gr dried shrooms, it was a DNA changing experience too. Cool, I will go with DMT. Thanks.

[Aaron p]

@James123 OK bro I can tell just from how you're speaking that you need to introduce much more calibration to your approach to chemicals of this level (dmt). Remember that this is a serious thing it's not small it's not minor these are very powerful drugs and the experiences they produce are extremely profound. 

You can't just take "two tabs" of LSD and hope for the best. First you have to test each batch of drugs you get with reagent test kits and also LSD is not measured in tabs it's measured in ug one tab could be 25 ug a different tab could be 325 ug. Fuck sake. Also I would not recommend trying to do a breakthrough dose of LSD as this will last 12 hours I mean unless you're some kind of extreme psychonaut master this is probably not a good idea. DMT is another beast entirely you also want to test each batch you get and dose very carefully using a 10 mg scoop from Amazon for DMT 50 milligrams is about the standard for a breakthrough the reason a breakthrough on DMT is probably not as dangerous as it breaks through on LSD is because if you have a very challenging experience you'll be back within 15 or 20 minutes however be aware of the power of this compound you will leave the earth and unless you have a really good track record of tripping hard and having minimal bad experiences there's a very real possibility that if you have a breakthrough dose of dmt you could be launched into any number of infinite hell dimensions. So start with low doses and work your way up very gradually there is no rush. Also according to my research it is basically safe to combine MDMA and nndmt and this is actually an extraordinarily good combination as it guarantees a good trip every time. I would personally not have tripped at all on DMT if I knew this combination was acceptable and safe I will definitely be trying the DMT / MDMA combination in the future the experiences this combination can produce our absolutely amazing visually stunning absolutely one of the best experiences of my entire life. If you in turned on taking MDMA also test that batch and dose carefully. You might want to have one or two experiences of MDMA before you do the combination so you can get an idea as to the correct dose for you. MDMA is also neurotoxic and addictive and is recommended to only be used once every three months which is what I recommend as well. You can actually combine MDMA and 5meodmt however this is more serious and requires additional care and lowering of both doses. There is a theoretical possibility of experiencing something called serotonin syndrome but this is very unlikely even with the 5meo / MDMA combination, there are many reports from the blue light.org harm reduction website about this combination. The only reason I mention it is because this particular combination is very interesting to me and to others because the fear of 5me-o-dmt is extreme and MDMA is reported to be insanely useful and efficient that simply removing that fear which is incredible it's like a hack but like I say you need to dose carefully.

 

For long trips like with LSD or psilocybin you might also want to invest in some trip killers. Typical trip killers are simple benzodiazepines. You take them and they cancel the trip in a short period of time very useful in challenging experiences. Also be aware that benzodiazepines have an addictive potential and you are really want to use them scarcely. 

Edited January 24 by Aaron p

[RendHeaven]

On 1/24/2025 at 11:20 AM, Aaron p said:

the fear of 5me-o-dmt is extreme and MDMA is reported to be insanely useful and efficient that simply removing that fear

That defeats the whole point lol.

the catharsis and upshot of 5meodmt is to plunge through your fear onto the other side.

If you neutralize fear with a crutch and dodge it completely, you expose yourself as a state chasing bliss seeker rather than an earnest lover of truth.

[Verg0]

For each new substance I usually start with a low dose and slowly work my way up, no matter how much experience I have with other substances. 

I broke this rule at times and got deeply humbled. 

[Starlight321]

Get yourself harmine freebase and weight out 200mg as maoi and drink it with judt a little bit of juice and after 45min the same with the dmt. I would start with 90 mg and then if its just like a shroom trip do 120. Thats where I'm at. 

Dmt is really good for a dark room trip and the peak also only lasts about 3 hours. Have some music and some space to turn and stretch around.

If you are inclined to see entities It might be if you go into the trip with the intention of cleansing your karma/energy that an entity appears via hyperspace that will just do that and you will do some movements and noises. Although I have only done normal and some high doses on mushrooms I find dmt more serious as there are beings there who are mostly benevolent but some get offended and if you met one of them again after another trip with other trips in between it will remember and you will too. It also feels different from other psychedelics and you might have at the lower level of standard dose the level of tripping like on 400mcg lsd so take precautions if you skip directly into deeper waters. 

Smoking dmt is a different matter as it is far more safe due it short livedness and if you break through you will be somewhere different entirely or only slightly connected to your body. But you need some pipe to smoke it and the fire is risky. You can smoke it as changa or vape it via a jet lighter a piece of thouroughly burned metal scrubber and a small bong. The disadvantage is the shorter it lasts the less tine there is fore serious insight.

Edited yesterday at 02:07 AM by Starlight321