Could such a plan make everyone on Earth biologically immortal?

[Alexander1988]

Many people worry that if life expectancy increases significantly, it will lead to overpopulation, poverty, and that all life-extending medicines will be monopolized by the wealthy, preventing others from using them.

I think this is a misconception, and I'll explain why. For example, no one is currently forbidden from using medicines or medical services.

Some people think that others are not worthy of not aging. Or they believe that if you are not needed by anyone, you shouldn't live a long life. They worry that in the future, people won't help others as they do now—for example, emergency medical services might not be available. Or that there won't be social benefits, jobs will be hard to find, and therefore, a long life wouldn't be worth it.

I think that all people deserve to live. It’s not like people should die just because they believe no one is needed by anyone. They can change something in their lives if they want to.

Also such medicines will be produced for everyone.
Just like how cheap generic versions of Ozempic are now being made in India and China.

A few thousand years after everyone stops aging, we could pass a law allowing families to have only one child. Just like they did in China. After that, the population would only double. When I talk about this, I am not advocating for any other laws adopted in China. I am referring to this one specific law.

I will also write about cryonics below. I kindly ask you not to think about cryonics with bias based on your personal attitude toward someone who supports it, or due to any provocative statements or actions they may have made, which almost always aim to draw public attention to the fact that people avoid thinking about, considering, or even discussing cryonics. I ask you to objectively consider what is written below. Also, please do not assume that everyone will be so angry that no one did anything and everyone was inert, to the point where they would grab machine guns and start shooting people out of rage if a rally were organized. Usually, it takes decades for many people to reflect on something like cryonics, and there is no strong desire to harm anyone specifically just because nothing is being done.

Poverty isn’t caused by overpopulation. It’s due to low levels of production. And low production is often a result of traditions. For example, the U.S. has long had a tradition of entrepreneurship and has high level of production. This means production can be increased. And when people stop dying, they’ll retain their skills for work and be able to accumulate money.

1 US 25.32% World GDP, 5x growth over the past 35 years
2 China 17.86% World GDP, x57 growth over the past 35 years
3 Japan 4.21% World GDP, x1.35 growth over the past 35 years

It would be possible to hold rallies in the USA. It’s easiest to organize them there. Then the results of these rallies could spread worldwide, and other countries would adopt them.

It’s just harsh that the topic of biological immortality is being largely ignored.

What do you think—should we organize rallies in the U.S. and demand answers from the government about why nothing is being done? Many people believe that governments should be the ones to take the initiative first.

We could gather a rally of 100,000 people in the U.S. and demand answers from the government. Organize a concert with famous performers—such an event would attract a large audience.

And there, we could say the following:

Free cryonics: Scientists say this could save everyone’s life, prevent illness and aging. No one knows of any reason why it wouldn’t work. In fact, it seems highly likely to work because medicine keeps improving. We need to preserve deceased individuals in liquid nitrogen so they can potentially be revived when medicine advances enough to make revival, healing, and rejuvenation possible.

Accelerating medical development: Currently, only 0.3% of GDP is spent on medical research. In comparison, 18% of GDP is spent on healthcare.

Permission for OrganEx to revive conscious pigs: For three years, they have been denied permission to conduct such experiments. If successful, this could enable reviving people several hours after death and might eventually allow revival after cryonics. Currently, pigs are fully revived under anesthesia several hours after death but are euthanized without being brought to consciousness because the necessary permissions haven’t been granted.

Demanding answers: Why is the government acting passively and allowing people to keep dying? Churches, demographers, and economists don’t oppose what’s outlined here. Do you have an objective reason to dismiss this, or just excuses?

Such a massive rally would gain media attention, forcing the government to respond.
When thousands of scientists write petitions, no one answers because the issue isn’t considered "popular enough" to warrant a reply.

I asked ChatGPT how such rallies could be organized: How much money is approximately needed to organize concerts and rallies to gather 100,000 people at rallies in the US? Famous music bands are required since the rally is not popular.

"Organizing concerts and rallies to attract 100,000 people in the US is a complex and
costly endeavor, especially if the rally topic is not popular. Here's an approximate
breakdown of expenses:

1. Venue Rental
For 100,000 people, large stadiums or parks are required.
Stadium rental cost: $500,000–$1,000,000.
Park or open space rental (including permits and cleanup): $100,000–$500,000.

2. Famous Music Bands
Headliners for concerts, such as popular rock or pop bands, demand significant fees.
Performance fees per event:
Superstars (e.g., BTS, Beyoncé): $1,000,000–$5,000,000.
Popular bands (e.g., Imagine Dragons): $500,000–$1,000,000.
Less famous artists: $50,000–$200,000.
To attract a large audience, it’s recommended to invite several groups, increasing the
total cost.

3. Technical Support
Stage, sound, lighting, screens, equipment: $500,000–$1,500,000.
Installation and dismantling: $100,000–$300,000.

4. Permits and Security
Licenses and permits from authorities: $50,000–$200,000.
Security, police, medical staff: $100,000–$500,000.

5. Advertising and Promotion
To attract 100,000 people, wide-reaching advertising is essential:
Social media: $50,000–$200,000.
Traditional media (TV, radio, billboards): $100,000–$500,000.
Collaboration with influencers could cost an additional $50,000–$300,000.

6. Logistics
Transport, parking, and cleanup: $100,000–$300,000.
Food and drinks (if provided): $500,000–$1,000,000.

7. Contingency Costs
Always allocate an additional 10–20% of the budget for unforeseen expenses.

Total Estimate:
The total cost for such an event could range from $3,000,000 to $10,000,000 or more,
depending on the scale, the number of invited stars, the level of advertising, and other
factors.

If the rally topic is truly unpopular, the following will be necessary:
Invest heavily in top performers to draw the audience.
Strengthen marketing efforts to clearly communicate the event’s purpose.
For a more precise estimate, factors like the location (e.g., costs in New York are sig-
nificantly higher than in smaller cities) and the potential involvement of sponsors or
partners, who could reduce expenses, need to be taken into account."

I wrote to billionaires and various funds. Either they didn't reply, or they wished me success and said they believe it's more important to allocate money to something else. Maybe someone can help with fundraising, give some advice, or organize such rallies themselves?

[Apparition of Jack]

Bro what

[Sucuk Ekmek]

Welcome to the forum, Alex!

Being biologically immortal—whether in a physical body, material construct, or digital form—seems like a waste of energy. Let me explain. As humans, we evolve through the concept of death and how we practice with existence. This doesn’t mean we aren’t immortal in some sense—it’s simply part of nature’s continuous cycle.

 Our bodies are tools for exploring biology. It’s shortsighted to believe that preserving these tools indefinitely grants us the immortality we seek.

 It might be a noble cause to pursue and attain immortality, but judging by biology—which defines our individuality—each person will have their own unique experience and approach to achieving it. Because of this diversity, I believe centralized methods are not suitable for such a purpose.

[Hojo]

Are you willing to murder trillions of babies for immortality? You are stopping other souls from coming to experience earth because you are too scared of the greatest thing to ever happen to you.

This is a playground play and then go home.

I used to be terrified of dying and was thinking my entire life about how I could stop dying. I always wondered why are the rich people not researching this? Why is no one talking about dying? This is the most important thing to look into. Then I see God and I see why. This is a mini game you want to play the same mini game forever? Possibly be made immortal then enslaved forever?

You actually don't like people as much as you do and being around them forever you would want to die. Once you stop trying to gain acceptance from people you will see no one will ever accept you for who you are except God.

The search for immortality comes with lack of faith. The contradiction is you must search for it to find it so God must lack faith to gain it faith.

You have another body that is in space and you can fly around to different planet and do the crazy shit you see when you are dreaming.

The fear of death is high intelligence coming into action. Its the one thing that is a complete lie that people and reality trick you into thinking is real.

Your mind sees this and registers it as an unknown force that leads to fear. If you are smart you will focus on that fear. That is where immortality is.

When you die its not permanent lights off. The lights will come back on.

Edited 23 hours ago by Hojo